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Featured What must one do to prepare for the "awesome day of the "LORD"

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by 2ndpillar, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. 2ndpillar

    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    What must one do to prepare for the coming “awesome day of the LORD”?

    The “awesome day of the LORD” (Joel 2:31-32) will come accompanied with angels of death, as was with the original Passover. To prepare for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the angel of death passed over, one must throw out the leaven, which would be the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. As the observing sheep will have a weeks worth of unleavened bread for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, they will have nourishment for their “escape” (Joel 2:32). As their leaders are the Shepherds of Ezekiel 34:3-4 and Zechariah 11:16, who do not feed the sheep, nor heal the sick, they will resist being thrown out. With respect to the Jews, they will have to throw out their Talmud built on the back of their Pharisees and lying scribes (Jeremiah 8:8), and with respect to the “Christians”, they will have to throw out their Pharisee of Pharisees, the false prophet Paul. Will this happen, probably not for the “many” (Mt 7:13), but they need to be warned regardless. The refining fires of Zechariah 13:7-9 may change at least 1/3 of the minds of the “little ones”, since apparently, they survive. How have you prepared?


    New American Standard Bible Jeremiah 8:8
    "How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.
     
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    Phantasman Well-Known Member

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    I've been prepared for decades. Not for what you see, though. Those men died. I am prepared for life.
     
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    I think there is value in saying some people should not be allowed to read the Bible. :)
     
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    it's so boring...only those who worship Demiurge may like that.
     
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    If you ain't living it now, you won't be living it later. (Ez 18:26-27)
     
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    That is what the Roman Catholic church said, and yet the German princes protected Luther anyway.
     
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    My wife made a crapload of potato salad.
     
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    What preparations are necessary for an event that isn't going to happen?
     
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    Or, rather "IS" going to happen, so prepare now by the conditions to be met as found at Zephaniah 2:3
    Seek God, seek righteousness, seek meekness, that you may be hid in the day of God's anger (Armageddon).
    The ' maybe ' part is our part because we all have two (2) choices to either 'repent' or 'perish' ( be destroyed )
    - 2 Peter 3:9.
     
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    Wise words from a man who died?

    John 6:58
    This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

    I'll take Christ over Ezekiel or any OT Hebrew father.
     
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    Yeshua is the bread of life, in as much, as he is the Word of God made flesh. You have made the Word "obsolete" per Hebrews 8:13. You have nailed the "Word of God" to the cross. It is you who are among the walking dead, for the Spirit of God does not dwell in the heart of a sinner. You have been duped (Rev 13:14) by the son of hell, the false prophet Paul. You must eat the "bread of life" without the leaven of the Pharisee. You have kept the leaven, and thrown out the bread. You have taken the word of the dead man Paul. Ezekiel spoke the Word of God, Paul spoke the word of his father, the father of lies, the devil. The serpent/devil and Paul both had the same message, which was "surely you shall not die". (Genesis 3:4) & 1 Thess 4:17.
     
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    Not for me. Christ clearly pointed out who was following the devil.

    John 8:
    38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

    39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

    40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

    41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

    42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    Jesus tried to save the Jews. They had him killed. Paul was right to leave them for the truth of the Spirit.

    When you understand the difference between father and Father, and spirit and Spirit, it will become clear. Father and Spirit does not appear in the Hebrew scriptures, and was used effectively by Paul. Without this "gnosis", you follow the father the Jews did. The devil. Per "Yeshua".
     
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    According 1 John 3:8, "the one who practices sin is of the devil". You are making it more complicated than it is. Paul tried to "release" you from the "Law" (Romans 7:6), so that there is no sin, but Paul's "flock", is the "flock doomed to slaughter" (Zechariah 11:4-7). You follow that "shepherd" (Ze 11:8-10), at your own risk.
     
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    Although Ezekiel died, according to John 11:25, "he will live". According to Revelation 20:10, although the "false prophet" is dead and buried, apparently his demon spirit will suffer forever and ever. Not the kind of living one would like to look forward too. As for the "wicked" in general, they do not have everlasting life, and their end, apart from their "judgment" (Rev 20:13), is ultimately quickly done and over with in the "lake of fire" (Rev 20:15).

    New American Standard Bible John 11:25
    Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,
     
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    Yes, and now behold the results. :)
     
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    According to you: going to happen
    According to me: not going to happen

    See how that works?
     
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    Yes, I understand the cross burner labor union eventually went out of business. And the book burner union also had to eventually close shop. The good old days are gone.
     
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    But somebody is probably wrong, and Truth will prevail in the end. What is certain, is that you will die. (Jer 31:30) What is not certain to you, is what happens after that.
     
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    Between us, I doubt either is "right", it is much more likely that we're both wrong. Care to take a guess as to which of the two of us is completely fine with that prospect?

    You stated "What is certain, is that you will die" as if I didn't know that. Stating it at all makes it seem as if you expected some kind of flabbergasted reaction from me. You think I don't know I will die? Where do you think I have been all of my life? And based on everything I can witness and the reality we are all faced with day in and day out, I have a pretty good guess as to what happens after that... and it has nothing to do with "walking" streets paved with gold. Nor does it involve "happily" worshiping a deity day in and day out in some amorphous alternate dimension. Nor does it involve the idea that I will get to hang out with everyone who passed before me in a forever-static paradise that is supposedly held up by no more than fanciful imaginings and hopeful dreaming. Doesn't involve "becoming one" with some pervasive "consciousness." Doesn't come with reward or punishment. Doesn't see my "spirit" put back into some other life-form to skip around merrily on my way to another death. Doesn't even involve what I consider my consciousness, memories or "self" in any form at all. I don't care how scary the lack of any of that is to anyone else. I've made my peace with it, and I have no choice but to surmise that my peace made with death on those terms is very much stronger than anyone who does believe in any of those things.
     
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    We are released from the "law" of flesh through Christs commandments of love, which is spirit. If one loves as Christ taught, the law is full filled. Sin is performed through the absence of love, which God is.

    The rich man told Jesus he never violated, and kept the law, every one, yet Jesus told him his love of possessions over love of "neighbor" kept him from achieving the kingdom of God.

    You see as the rich man did. Paul defined (spiritual) love, Zechariah didn't because it wasn't given until he long passed.

    John:
    (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

    Paul spoke by the Holy Spirit. Zechariah didn't, couldn't, because it wasn't given to man until the Father gave it after Jesus rose from the dead.

    If you seek the Spirit (capital S) which is all truth, from Zechariah or any father of the Jews, you won't find it. These are Jesus words, not mine. You need to read John 8 over and over until you see it. Otherwise, Paul's words will make no sense to you, as it did the Jews who refused Christ.

    Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.- John 8

    The OT keeps you from the understanding, as it did/does the Jews.
     
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