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What makes Jesus so special?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Ori, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. Ori

    Ori Angel slayer

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    Yes, I know, he died for our sins, but ( Christians are not going to like me today) haven't many people died to free others without prior knowledge that everything will be okay?



    Could a mod please move this to religious debates please?
     
  2. Sunstone

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    Well, for one thing, Jesus had a good PR person in Paul. Paul put a spin on Jesus's teachings that made them palitable to the underclasses of the Roman Empire. And the Roman Empire facilitated dissemination of Paul's message by facilitating travel over great distances and between countries. So, that's one set of circumstances in how Jesus came to be more important to us than others. But it's certainly not the only reasons he became important.
     
  3. michel

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    The original question was "What makes Jesus So Special"; to which I would answer that "He is part of the trinity"; he is the only begotten son of God.

    From:- http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11049a.htm
    (with apologies to our Eastern orthodox friends)

    We believe (I believe) in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, and born of the Father before all ages. (God of God) light of light, true God of true God. Begotten not made, consubstantial to the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And was incarnate of the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary and was made man; was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; and the third day rose again according to the Scriptures. And ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father, and shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of whose Kingdom there shall be no end. And (I believe) in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father (and the Son), who together with the Father and the Son is to be adored and glorified, who spoke by the Prophets. And one holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We confess (I confess) one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for (I look for) the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen."

    That's why he is special, to me.[​IMG]
     
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  4. Jayhawker Soule

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    Actually, no, you don't.
     
  5. Jayhawker Soule

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    According to fable ...
     
  6. Opethian

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    People's fantasy makes jesus special in their eyes.
     
  7. Buttercup

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    Could you expound on this please? I need more before I can answer. What do you mean by prior knowledge that everything will be okay?
     
  8. michel

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    True, but Fable which I accept.
     
  9. c0da

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    I doubt he would have gained his reputation of being so special if the story of his ressurection hadn't been circulated so well.
     
  10. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    i'm rather a fan of the romanticised image of Jesus

    but anyway, Jesus is only "special" to those who accept and believe he was real, and that he was the son of God........ i can see why a belief in him can be criticised, and knowledge of him cannot be varified, but i have a faith in him, so he is special to me :hugs:
     
  11. ΩRôghênΩ

    ΩRôghênΩ Disciple of Light

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    here comes the sad and pessimistic atheists *sighs*
     
  12. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    there is nothing wrong with asking questions! again, you generalise atheists to be sad and pessimistic, why?
     
  13. Linus

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    I guess. I don't really know.

    What makes Jesus so special? According to the Bible he lived a sinless life. Completely. He never sinned. Not even once.

    1 John 3:5 - You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin
    2 Corinthians 5:21 - He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
    Hebrews 4:15 - For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
    1 Peter 2:22 (A quotation of Isaiah 53:9) - WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;

    This is a very important facet of Christianity because a perfect sacrifice was needed in order to cleanse the sins of mankind. A lamb without blemish. The only person on record to have no blemish was Jesus Christ. Does that help?

    I'll also give a hearty "Amen" to Michel for his response. That is a very appropriate answer as well.
     
  14. Opethian

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    here comes a judgemental and ignorant christian *sighs*

    Edit: woops, I forgot overgeneralising and simplifying. :)
     
  15. lilithu

    lilithu The Devil's Advocate

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    I personally don't believe that Jesus died for our sins so that part is moot for me. I don't believe that God requires a blood sacrifice. And I don't believe that Jesus had foreknowledge that everything was going to be ok.

    Jesus is so special to me because Jesus loved God with all his heart and all his soul and all his might AND he loved people as he loved himself. He saw the two commandments/laws as one and the same. There are very few people who have done that.
     
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    To answer the title of the thread while waiting for an answer to the OP, I will say that what makes Jesus so special to me is his claim of being God. The fact that a part of God himself would care enough to come to earth as a human and sacrifice himself for us?

    That notion is astoundingly special to me.......
     
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  17. Jayhawker Soule

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    Or, more correctly, the filtered and redacted story paints a picture of someone who ... So, for example, your Jesus shows little resemblance to the Jesus who treated his mother with disdain and who was, if one includes the infancy gospels, a rather nasty little kid.
     
  18. PureX

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    Jesus, through the story of his life and death, has become the embodiment of the idea that love and forgiveness can and will heal us and save us from ourselves. All we have to do is have the willingness and courage to love and forgive ourselves and each other even (and especially) in the face hatred and anger and resentment and rage. This is a very powerful and hopeful idea, people have experienced this idea as life-changing, and that makes Jesus a very special representative character.
     
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  19. jewscout

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    well if you believe the story.......he can turn water into wine


    that's pretty handy to have around;)

    i wonder if it's kosher for passover?:D
     
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  20. Ori

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    Of course I don't silly billy :p , i'm not a christian.
     
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