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What it would be like to have pride in my country?

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Quetzal, Jan 23, 2021.

  1. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    I am watching a UFC event tonight and it is common to hear fighters talk about their country and are proud to be where they are from. I like to fantasize about what that would be like because my country (the US) is a real piece of ****. A place where the likes of Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Lauren Boebert get elected on purpose.

    If I traveled abroad, I would lie about where I came from if asked. I do not see any justifiable reason to be proud of being from here. We have no identity, our politicians pander to the lowest common denominator, we terrorize nations from half a world away via drone strikes, we let legislation be bought by the highest bidder, we allow our school kids to get shot up multiple times a year, we watched as a pandemic ripped our population apart, we let our countrymen go into insurmountable debt for basic medical treatment, etc etc etc.

    If I could, I could leave and never come back. This place sucks.
     
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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    You identify too much with politicians.
    Life here is much better if you view
    them as mere vermin.
     
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  3. JustGeorge

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    I agree with @Quetzal , and I don't pay politicians a whole lot of mind.

    I haven't been too impressed with much. I haven't enjoyed many of the people, and the food's largely awful.

    Pretty place, though. I won't deny that.
     
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    What's worse is Germany. Haven't met a German I like yet.

    (well except for one)
     
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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    It has everything for me....great food, many great engine shows,
    great housing, wonderful entertainment, fine weather, etc, etc.
     
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  6. JustGeorge

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    I don't think any place is really truly bad. Its just that every place isn't suited for every person...
     
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    I would like to burn our Constitution and write a much better one (the newish one in South Africa is an improvement, for example). And most politicians here are asses. But I too love living here - though probably would hate it if I was poor.
     
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  8. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    My advice....
    Be where you want to be.
    Sometimes that means consciously focusing upon the positive.
     
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    Wouldn't that be: want to be where you are?
     
  10. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    That may be true, but I believe that they are a direct reflection of the populace that elects them. There are people who still do not wear masks, scream about rights when an elementary school gets shot up, believe climate change is fake, want the confederacy to rise again, believe the best course of action is to violently storm our capital buildings, and so on. What is there to be proud of when you share a country with such ignorance and resentment?
     
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  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    That doesn't always work.
    For example, @Shadow Wolf seemed to need
    to immigrate to Kaliforniastan from Indianastan.
     
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  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I think you've been infected with news...a particularly nasty strain.
     
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  13. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    I live it every single day, that is what it is like to live where I live.
     
  14. JustGeorge

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    So you're suggesting moving regions, if you can?

    Hubby is a southern transplant. He's never adjusted to Iowa soil. He'd like to go back, but says while her prefers southern culture, it simply isn't affordable.

    Iowa influence has overall affected him pretty negatively.
     
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    So because there are variety types of people you don't like here, that means the whole place is no good?
     
  16. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Perhaps a move to an area that suits you better?
    There are many places I wouldn't want to live.
    I've even already lived in some. Now I've found home.
     
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  17. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    Correct, because it does not change the actions the country takes on a federal level. That cannot be changed by moving to another state as @Revoltingest suggested.
     
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    I'm a little confused why the federal government has such a large impact on your life to begin with.
     
  19. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Any thoughts about how to his becoming happier with the location?
     
  20. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    He hasn't learned to de-focus upon it.
    This is important for happiness & equanmity.
     
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