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Discussion in 'Ethics and Morals' started by Geoff-Allen, May 19, 2019.

  1. Geoff-Allen

    Geoff-Allen Resident megalomaniac

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    I believe this may be the best place to post this -

    What do you reckon and just how many people would have ever been "enlightened" if we use such a definition -

    "A man of enlightenment, feeling one with existence, needs no morality, needs no ethics, needs no teachings about what is right and what is wrong. He is so in tune with existence that everything that happens through him is bound to be just right. There is no possibility of anything going wrong. Meditation is an art of bringing you closer to the heartbeat of existence. The deeper you go within you … you will find the very heartbeat of existence. Then there is no morality for you; all that you do is beautiful."

    ~ Osho

    Enjoy your day!
     
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  2. Quagmire

    Quagmire Imaginary talking monkey
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    I think that someone who's at peace with themselves will be at peace with the world.
     
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  3. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    I think Rajneesh was a bit of a sophist.
     
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  4. Geoff-Allen

    Geoff-Allen Resident megalomaniac

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    ةةةةةةةةةةلالالالا
     
  5. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    And much worse to boot.

    Listening to him is very dangerous at the best of circunstances.
     
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  6. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    When you look into that quoted statement of his you can see that it is completely meaningless like much of postmodernism. Yet people look at his teachings as if they are something profound when in actuality they are a bunch of word games
     
  7. Terry Sampson

    Terry Sampson ζει

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    Egads!! I didn't recognize him by the monicker "Osho", but as "Rajneesh" I do. Sheesh! Rajneesh - Wikipedia
     
  8. Quagmire

    Quagmire Imaginary talking monkey
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    Just talking about the quote in the OP, I would pretty strongly agree that an "I'm above ethics and morality" attitude could be and often is extremely dangerous in the hands of most self-defined "Enlightened Beings" (I've known a few. Awful, awful people. :p).

    On the other hand, I also believe there are people in this world who's nature it is to treat other people the way they themselves want to be treated, and do so without any need for a set of rules telling them they should.
     
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  9. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    It's easy to repeat words of wisdom. To have achieved the state where the words are living truth is another matter.
     
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  10. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    You slipped in with what I was also thinking. There are many who pretend to be enlightened because they find it a route to money, sex and power. I once read this:

    There are many hypocritical saints with long matted hair and their bodies besmeared with ashes. Tukaram says: "Let their dead conscience be burnt; it is no sin to thrash them!"
     
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  11. Quagmire

    Quagmire Imaginary talking monkey
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    Or to make up for any number of things.

    Or at least, it shouldn't be a sin to want to. :D
     
  12. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    If you are at one with everything, then you can't think objectively. Your mileage may vary.
     
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  13. Komori

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    Well of course a leader of a sex cult would say such a thing.
     
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  14. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Hello Geoff.... ! :)

    That description........... is of a psychopath!

    Scary........... :eek:
     
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  15. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium सच्चिदानन्द
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    Avidya runs deep in this thread.

    But I digress. I'm not sure "feeling" is the right word, because feelings are tied to the physical body...to relative reality. I would have used the word "being."
     
  16. RedDragon94

    RedDragon94 Lectio Divina

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    Enlightenment isn't that far off from any of us, it's within.
     
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  17. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Yeah, Osho had no need for morality or ethics.
     
  18. robocop (actually)

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    I think who exalteth himself shall be humbled and who humbleth himself shall be abased. If this man thinks he's all that an idiot can be more enlightened than him.
     
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    But somehow he had need for all those Rolls Royces
     
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  20. It Aint Necessarily So

    It Aint Necessarily So Well-Known Member
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    Did you hear the one about the Zen master who asked the hot dog vendor outside of Sam's Club to make him one with everything?

    Understandably annoyed, when the Zen master requested his change, the hot dog vendor told him that change must come from within.
     
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