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What is your beliefs about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
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Rational_Mind
Ahmadi Muslim
We as Ahmadi Muslims believe the Promised Messiah (as) also referred to as the Messiah and Imam Mahdi (Ibn Maryam in prophetic texts) was a prophet of God sent in the latter days as foretold the in the Quran, Hadith, the Bible, and other religious scriptures.
He established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889 as a movement to revive the true teachings of Islam as taught by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw). His purpose was to save Islam from the onslaught of Christianity and the internal destruction of Muslims who had lost the true picture of Islam and broken into numerous Sects and internal divisions.
We also believe that a Prophet of God can come after the Holy Prophet (saw) just as other Muslims believe in the second coming of Jesus (as). But we do not accept that even one iota of religious laws and teachings of Islam can be changed under the coming of a Prophet(as). Such a prophet must be to revive Islam and not to overwrite any of its teachings as the Holy Quran has said that Islam is a perfected religion. The Quran has been promised protection from changes in text but also in meaning. Which is achieved through Mujjadids that we believe were sent in every century until the coming of the Imam Mahdi (as) who had to overcome the greater challenge than faced by prior reformers of Islam.
The only difference between Orthodox Muslims is that we believe him to be Ummati (from among the Muslims) rather than from the dispensation of Moses (as).
This concept in our understanding of the Holy Quran does not contradict with the highest status of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) which can only be described through the term Khataman Nabiyyeen (the Seal of the Prophets) who was the best model for mankind and the most beloved Messenger of Allah (swt).
In order to investigate the truth of the claim of the Promised Messiah (as) it is necessary for the seekers of truth to first turn to the Holy Quran and see if there is even a possibility for a Messenger of Allah (swt) to come after our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). I will try to address this soon, as it is most important to understand the meaning of Khataman Nabiyyeen as understood by first sources of the Holy Quran which cannot possible contradict given a correct interpretation, and next in reference to the usage of the term in Early Islamic Sources.
For Clarification: I do not have more time currently. I have to make sure I state that a small portion of Ahmadi Muslims broke away from the Community after rejecting the bait of the second Khalifatul Massih after passing of the first Khalifatul Massih as they differed in opinion on Khilafat and formed as separate community,known as "Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat-e-Islam Lahore". They later differed in perspective and believed the Promised Messiah (as) was only a reformer and not a Prophet of God.
He established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889 as a movement to revive the true teachings of Islam as taught by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw). His purpose was to save Islam from the onslaught of Christianity and the internal destruction of Muslims who had lost the true picture of Islam and broken into numerous Sects and internal divisions.
We also believe that a Prophet of God can come after the Holy Prophet (saw) just as other Muslims believe in the second coming of Jesus (as). But we do not accept that even one iota of religious laws and teachings of Islam can be changed under the coming of a Prophet(as). Such a prophet must be to revive Islam and not to overwrite any of its teachings as the Holy Quran has said that Islam is a perfected religion. The Quran has been promised protection from changes in text but also in meaning. Which is achieved through Mujjadids that we believe were sent in every century until the coming of the Imam Mahdi (as) who had to overcome the greater challenge than faced by prior reformers of Islam.
The only difference between Orthodox Muslims is that we believe him to be Ummati (from among the Muslims) rather than from the dispensation of Moses (as).
This concept in our understanding of the Holy Quran does not contradict with the highest status of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) which can only be described through the term Khataman Nabiyyeen (the Seal of the Prophets) who was the best model for mankind and the most beloved Messenger of Allah (swt).
In order to investigate the truth of the claim of the Promised Messiah (as) it is necessary for the seekers of truth to first turn to the Holy Quran and see if there is even a possibility for a Messenger of Allah (swt) to come after our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). I will try to address this soon, as it is most important to understand the meaning of Khataman Nabiyyeen as understood by first sources of the Holy Quran which cannot possible contradict given a correct interpretation, and next in reference to the usage of the term in Early Islamic Sources.
For Clarification: I do not have more time currently. I have to make sure I state that a small portion of Ahmadi Muslims broke away from the Community after rejecting the bait of the second Khalifatul Massih after passing of the first Khalifatul Massih as they differed in opinion on Khilafat and formed as separate community,known as "Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat-e-Islam Lahore". They later differed in perspective and believed the Promised Messiah (as) was only a reformer and not a Prophet of God.
listenmullahsb
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I agree with everything Rational_Mind sb has mentioned above. My views are identical.
LMS
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seeking4truth
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, I believe, is the one whose teachings can help us develop a successful relationship with God and with each other by following God's guidelines - instructions for life.
All religions including Muslims are awaiting a reformer who will do this. Each religion has its own perception of who this reformer will be and what he will do.
It is the perceptions that divide us.
Ahmadi Muslims are like the followers of Jesus who accepted him and his teachings benefiting from them.
The others who do not accept him are like the people who did not accept Jesus, who remained with their old perceptions and could not recognise him as their Messiah.
They are still waiting and have not benefited from his teachings.
All religions including Muslims are awaiting a reformer who will do this. Each religion has its own perception of who this reformer will be and what he will do.
It is the perceptions that divide us.
Ahmadi Muslims are like the followers of Jesus who accepted him and his teachings benefiting from them.
The others who do not accept him are like the people who did not accept Jesus, who remained with their old perceptions and could not recognise him as their Messiah.
They are still waiting and have not benefited from his teachings.
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on everyone in the world.
1- The evolution of religion started at Hadhrat Adam (peace be on him).
2- The divine message continued to increase in scope till it was perfected on the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). He was last law-bearing Prophet for all humanity; he was Chief of all Prophets with last Holy Book, Holy Quran.
3- In his life time, the ways and means were not fully developed for the spread of message worldwide, yet the world was to become global village, it was destined to be so in latter days era of 1000 years / the current era.
4- He (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) prophecied that in latter days, his believers would become weak.
5- There were two aspects:
i) Message was yet to reach to the whole world.
ii)- Those who were to take the message to the world themselves became weak. A renowned muslim poet Hali griefly said:
Neither their power remained, nor respect
Left them, the company of their prestige and wealth.
Knowledge and skill, one by one, from them, departed
Their excellences, stage by stage, erased.
Neither the Deen (the Way), nor Islam is left
Only the name of Islam is left
6- The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) had told the remedy for this. He prophecied that an ardent devotee of his (s.a.w.) would bring back the faith from al-Thuraiyyah (Pleiades). It is a parable; it meant, faith would become weak and that man would revive it. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) called that man Esa-nabiullah and also Mahdi.
7- In the religious history, something of similar order previously had happened.. For the revival of Jews, there was a prophecy about coming of Massiah. But it was written in their Book that before his coming Elijah (an ancient Prophet) was to come AGAIN………….When Hadhart Esa (Jesus a.s.) appeared, he was asked where the Elijah was? He said, it was John the Baptist (Hadhrat Yahya a.s.).
He and his few followers was denied and persecuted.
In fact, the prophecy of coming of Prophet Elijah a.s. was actually a metaphoric message and it actually meant someone with the properties of Elijah was to come before coming of Jesus……………Now Jesus / Hadhart Esa a.s. rides the same boat! His name has been in a prophecy for the revival of Islam…….Holy Quran has fixed his circle of duty; ‘rasulan elaa bani Israel’ (a Prophet for children of Israel). Thus, in the light of previous similar prophecy for Elijah and this constraint that he was only for children of Israel, it is very obvious that prophecy of again coming of Hadhrat Esa (Jesus a.s.) is a metaphore and has deeper meanings.
8- In the prophecy of Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), the reviver of faith is called / titled Esa-nabiullah and Mahdi. It means:
i) The Revivor will heal by spirituality i.e. by prayers attention and will use no force.
ii) His being nabiullah (Prophet of Allah) will not interfere with the Finality of Holy Prophet (s.a.w.), as the revivor will not bring any new teaching, would be his subserviant and lost in his love. [This spiritual phenomenon is cited is Quran when it said that Bai’at of Holy Prophet is Bai’at of Allah ----Obviously both are NOT equal, otherwise it would amount to Shirk, It is a metaphor that Holy Prophet s.a.w. is being spiritually lost in Beloved Allah]
iii) Mahdi means the person who is guided by God. This means the reviver will get revelation from God to learn real meaning of Holy Quran and the way to guide the followers to take them to success and glory and to take the message of peace and love of Holy Quran to the whole world, to each human.
9-The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) also foretold the restart of Khilafat on the precept of Prophethood. He clearly said about a Khilafat right after him (s.a.w.), then coming of kings and then again start of Khilafat on the precept of Prophethood (alaa minhaj alnabuwat). This prophecy is about continuation of services of Promised Massiah and Mahdi (a.s.) via Khilafat so that the purpose of Holy Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be on him) is achieved.
10- The claim of someone that he is from God and God speaks to him is not a small thing. The towering impotance of it is mentioned in Holy Quran (near the end of surah Al-Haqqah chapter 69) which was revealed to the Most-Beloved-of- Allah human and Chief of all Prophets, Final Law bearing Prophet, the Chosen one, Muhammad (s.a.w.) :
From Surah Al-Haqqah:
“(It is) a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
And if he had forged (and attributed) any sayings to Us,
We would surely have seized him by the Right Hand.”
Thus God does not spare the one who uses his name falsely…………The Right Hand of God has helped the Claimant, the Promised Messiah and Mahdi and his Khilafat (5 th Khilafat continues by the Grace of Allah) to take the real peaceful message of Holy Quran to 202 countries of the world officially. World needs this message. Just as examples, in the recent times, 5 th Holy Khalifah took the peaceful and Justice-ful message of Allah to US Capitol Hills (Law-makers of Congress and Senate), German Armed Forces Headquater and European Union Parliament. [Ref: wwwDOTalislamDOTorg]. He wrote letters to world leaders asking them to work together for peace in world and avoid a possible world war. He wrote to leaders of USA, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Israel and China. [Ref: wwwDOTreviewofreligionsDOTorg/6230/letters-sent-to-world-leaders]
Please remember these and other numerous services for peace are being done in the time when The Religion of Peace, Islam, is being equated with terrorism.
11- These are times when one has to make a bold, educated and learned choice; either continue to slide downward individually and countrywise or wisely accept the promised Call of Revival. There is no compulsion, things are open. Open is the gate to prayers to Allah so that one can selflessly pray to Allah, invoke lots of salutation on Holy Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be on him) and seek Allah’s guidance in this matter of revival of faith.-- Allah still Answers.
1- The evolution of religion started at Hadhrat Adam (peace be on him).
2- The divine message continued to increase in scope till it was perfected on the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). He was last law-bearing Prophet for all humanity; he was Chief of all Prophets with last Holy Book, Holy Quran.
3- In his life time, the ways and means were not fully developed for the spread of message worldwide, yet the world was to become global village, it was destined to be so in latter days era of 1000 years / the current era.
4- He (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) prophecied that in latter days, his believers would become weak.
5- There were two aspects:
i) Message was yet to reach to the whole world.
ii)- Those who were to take the message to the world themselves became weak. A renowned muslim poet Hali griefly said:
Neither their power remained, nor respect
Left them, the company of their prestige and wealth.
Knowledge and skill, one by one, from them, departed
Their excellences, stage by stage, erased.
Neither the Deen (the Way), nor Islam is left
Only the name of Islam is left
6- The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) had told the remedy for this. He prophecied that an ardent devotee of his (s.a.w.) would bring back the faith from al-Thuraiyyah (Pleiades). It is a parable; it meant, faith would become weak and that man would revive it. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) called that man Esa-nabiullah and also Mahdi.
7- In the religious history, something of similar order previously had happened.. For the revival of Jews, there was a prophecy about coming of Massiah. But it was written in their Book that before his coming Elijah (an ancient Prophet) was to come AGAIN………….When Hadhart Esa (Jesus a.s.) appeared, he was asked where the Elijah was? He said, it was John the Baptist (Hadhrat Yahya a.s.).
He and his few followers was denied and persecuted.
In fact, the prophecy of coming of Prophet Elijah a.s. was actually a metaphoric message and it actually meant someone with the properties of Elijah was to come before coming of Jesus……………Now Jesus / Hadhart Esa a.s. rides the same boat! His name has been in a prophecy for the revival of Islam…….Holy Quran has fixed his circle of duty; ‘rasulan elaa bani Israel’ (a Prophet for children of Israel). Thus, in the light of previous similar prophecy for Elijah and this constraint that he was only for children of Israel, it is very obvious that prophecy of again coming of Hadhrat Esa (Jesus a.s.) is a metaphore and has deeper meanings.
8- In the prophecy of Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), the reviver of faith is called / titled Esa-nabiullah and Mahdi. It means:
i) The Revivor will heal by spirituality i.e. by prayers attention and will use no force.
ii) His being nabiullah (Prophet of Allah) will not interfere with the Finality of Holy Prophet (s.a.w.), as the revivor will not bring any new teaching, would be his subserviant and lost in his love. [This spiritual phenomenon is cited is Quran when it said that Bai’at of Holy Prophet is Bai’at of Allah ----Obviously both are NOT equal, otherwise it would amount to Shirk, It is a metaphor that Holy Prophet s.a.w. is being spiritually lost in Beloved Allah]
iii) Mahdi means the person who is guided by God. This means the reviver will get revelation from God to learn real meaning of Holy Quran and the way to guide the followers to take them to success and glory and to take the message of peace and love of Holy Quran to the whole world, to each human.
9-The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) also foretold the restart of Khilafat on the precept of Prophethood. He clearly said about a Khilafat right after him (s.a.w.), then coming of kings and then again start of Khilafat on the precept of Prophethood (alaa minhaj alnabuwat). This prophecy is about continuation of services of Promised Massiah and Mahdi (a.s.) via Khilafat so that the purpose of Holy Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be on him) is achieved.
10- The claim of someone that he is from God and God speaks to him is not a small thing. The towering impotance of it is mentioned in Holy Quran (near the end of surah Al-Haqqah chapter 69) which was revealed to the Most-Beloved-of- Allah human and Chief of all Prophets, Final Law bearing Prophet, the Chosen one, Muhammad (s.a.w.) :
From Surah Al-Haqqah:
“(It is) a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
And if he had forged (and attributed) any sayings to Us,
We would surely have seized him by the Right Hand.”
Thus God does not spare the one who uses his name falsely…………The Right Hand of God has helped the Claimant, the Promised Messiah and Mahdi and his Khilafat (5 th Khilafat continues by the Grace of Allah) to take the real peaceful message of Holy Quran to 202 countries of the world officially. World needs this message. Just as examples, in the recent times, 5 th Holy Khalifah took the peaceful and Justice-ful message of Allah to US Capitol Hills (Law-makers of Congress and Senate), German Armed Forces Headquater and European Union Parliament. [Ref: wwwDOTalislamDOTorg]. He wrote letters to world leaders asking them to work together for peace in world and avoid a possible world war. He wrote to leaders of USA, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Israel and China. [Ref: wwwDOTreviewofreligionsDOTorg/6230/letters-sent-to-world-leaders]
Please remember these and other numerous services for peace are being done in the time when The Religion of Peace, Islam, is being equated with terrorism.
11- These are times when one has to make a bold, educated and learned choice; either continue to slide downward individually and countrywise or wisely accept the promised Call of Revival. There is no compulsion, things are open. Open is the gate to prayers to Allah so that one can selflessly pray to Allah, invoke lots of salutation on Holy Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be on him) and seek Allah’s guidance in this matter of revival of faith.-- Allah still Answers.