What is wrong with those people who don't answer the question they're asked?
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What is wrong with those people who believe in superstitions?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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What is wrong with those people who don't answer the question they're asked?
psychoslice
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Is there truth in this information ?.
sovietchild
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Where did you get it? I have never herd of that stuff before.
Spiderman
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Having to face Mecca when you pray sounds superstitious to me
4-leaf clovers are quite rare, and after you pluck them they die quickly. The best thing to do is to eat the 4-leaf clover, so it becomes a part of you. That way you absorb the good luck and crap out the back luck. Never eat two though, because that is like eating an 8-leaf clover. Nobody knows what would happen to you. You only need one anyway, so do not be greedy. If you find two let a friend pick one.
Spiderman
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Although I believe in God, I'm fond of this answer
psychoslice
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Its all over the net, just google it and there it is, its not made up, its there in black and white.
Unveiled Artist
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Wouldn't belief that "god does things" be superstition too?
Spiderman
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Could be
sovietchild
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Unveiled Artist
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I mean, many religious practices can be considered superstition.
Lighting a candle when praying to St. Mary relating it to the Light of the World of Christ
Having to face a specific direction to pray (why East not West. Why South and not North? What's the difference without instructions?)
A red string around one's wrist as a blessings from Hindu god(s)
Tarot cards, hard paper with pictures on it, are said to be a source of evil because of the intent of the person using the cards as if the cards have some special power others don't know about.
We believed in my family in exorcism. We had ghost in the house and my grandmother, though not Catholic (which is a Catholic practice) got our home blessed and rid of demons. She put an upside down horseshoe on our front door and a couple of other things I can't remember.
Altars are just tables, stands, or so have you that hold "sacred" (why sacred?) objects, books, and pictures of memory etc and to many kiss their altar, others meditate, as if being in that physical space does something magically to the person compared to being on a train or on the moon.
It doesn't have to be religious either. My family thought if you take a piece of brown (why brown why not blue) paper bag and put it under our tongue, it would stop a nose bleed.
Mother put salt in the corners of our home to ward off bad spirits even though she had no religious motive to do so.
Gosh, there are a lot of superstitions.
Why do people believe in them? Why not put a piece of brown paper bag under the tongue if one really thought it would end a nose bleed? Why not exorcise a home if one really thought there were bad spirits within it?
It may seem odd to other people but it's pretty logical regardless if it's real or fake.
Lighting a candle when praying to St. Mary relating it to the Light of the World of Christ
Having to face a specific direction to pray (why East not West. Why South and not North? What's the difference without instructions?)
A red string around one's wrist as a blessings from Hindu god(s)
Tarot cards, hard paper with pictures on it, are said to be a source of evil because of the intent of the person using the cards as if the cards have some special power others don't know about.
We believed in my family in exorcism. We had ghost in the house and my grandmother, though not Catholic (which is a Catholic practice) got our home blessed and rid of demons. She put an upside down horseshoe on our front door and a couple of other things I can't remember.
Altars are just tables, stands, or so have you that hold "sacred" (why sacred?) objects, books, and pictures of memory etc and to many kiss their altar, others meditate, as if being in that physical space does something magically to the person compared to being on a train or on the moon.
It doesn't have to be religious either. My family thought if you take a piece of brown (why brown why not blue) paper bag and put it under our tongue, it would stop a nose bleed.
Mother put salt in the corners of our home to ward off bad spirits even though she had no religious motive to do so.
Gosh, there are a lot of superstitions.
Why do people believe in them? Why not put a piece of brown paper bag under the tongue if one really thought it would end a nose bleed? Why not exorcise a home if one really thought there were bad spirits within it?
It may seem odd to other people but it's pretty logical regardless if it's real or fake.
Shrew
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Unveiled Artist
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@sovietchild
Some superstitions that Muslims do as with pagans
Cleansing oneself with water (or so have you) before prayer and/or ritual. It's superstitious in that water in and of itself cannot do anything but take dirt off your face. Whatever spiritual significance both Muslim and pagan put to cleansing cannot, in and of itself, make water any more than H2O.
Covering ones head in Muslim, Catholic, and probably some pagan faiths (like color of clothing) are proper practice for worship. Yet, if a Muslim her face uncovered, would god disappear? If one out of many pagans decide to where black and the rest white, would the Orishas poof out of thin air?
Why use prayer mats when prayers can be done anywhere? Of course, there is a practical explanation for using them, but on the other hand, why not a gym mat or a pillow case? What about the physical mat itself somehow is connected to your prayer that without a clean place to sit, the prayer would be, I guess, not complete? Rude to god?
Many Catholic Mass are in Roman while Muslims pray in Arabic yet god hears prayers in all languages. Traditions are very common but to many religious without tradition (without the object or practice of the superstition i.e. the latter) there is no belief, the superstition itself (walking under it).
So there are similarities. As for related to polytheist, that's just incorrect based on definitions not religion. Polytheist believe many many many religions. It's not a religion. Superstitions do not lead to polytheism. Polytheist and monotheist and so forth religions may have superstitions in it
depending on the perceptive of the person. One person's superstition is another person's blessings from god.
Some superstitions that Muslims do as with pagans
Cleansing oneself with water (or so have you) before prayer and/or ritual. It's superstitious in that water in and of itself cannot do anything but take dirt off your face. Whatever spiritual significance both Muslim and pagan put to cleansing cannot, in and of itself, make water any more than H2O.
Covering ones head in Muslim, Catholic, and probably some pagan faiths (like color of clothing) are proper practice for worship. Yet, if a Muslim her face uncovered, would god disappear? If one out of many pagans decide to where black and the rest white, would the Orishas poof out of thin air?
Why use prayer mats when prayers can be done anywhere? Of course, there is a practical explanation for using them, but on the other hand, why not a gym mat or a pillow case? What about the physical mat itself somehow is connected to your prayer that without a clean place to sit, the prayer would be, I guess, not complete? Rude to god?
Many Catholic Mass are in Roman while Muslims pray in Arabic yet god hears prayers in all languages. Traditions are very common but to many religious without tradition (without the object or practice of the superstition i.e. the latter) there is no belief, the superstition itself (walking under it).
So there are similarities. As for related to polytheist, that's just incorrect based on definitions not religion. Polytheist believe many many many religions. It's not a religion. Superstitions do not lead to polytheism. Polytheist and monotheist and so forth religions may have superstitions in it
depending on the perceptive of the person. One person's superstition is another person's blessings from god.
Augustus
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What you are saying is that Islam prohibits superstition so anything that is Islamic can't be superstition otherwise it wouldn't be Islamic.
Other people who are not bound by this tautology might very well find it very difficult to provide any logical explanation as to what differentiates superstition from many Islamic or other 'orthodox' religious practices.
Can you provide a precise way of differentiation superstition from 'proper' religion?
For example, what differentiates:
If anyone learns by heart the first ten verses of the Surat Al-Kahf, he will be protected from the Dajjal. (Sahih muslim Book 004, Hadith 1766)
From
Nailing a horseshoe to your door wards off evil spirits
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Father Heathen
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I know, right? It's almost as weird as praying toward a rock in a big, black box. Or believing that contact with a dog causes one to become cursed.
Tumah
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What is wrong with people who think that non-Muslims would care about what Machamudim may have said?
Augustus
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You would say that though, as a Jew, your heart was created uncircumcised and you were cursed with disbelief. You become disdainful when a messenger delivers something you do not desire, unless that messenger is a scribe of course, then you do whatever they say, no matter the inconvenience.
2:87 We brought the book to Moses and We arranged messengers after him. We brought clear signs to Jesus the son of Mary and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Whenever a messenger delivered something you did not desire you became disdainful. You denied some of them and killed some of them.(88) They said “Our hearts are uncircumcised.” In fact, God has cursed them with their unbelief and few of them believe.
What is wrong with these people who become disdainful when delivered something they did not desire?
Tumah
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That's old news. I hear John had similar sentiments.
Augustus
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I didn't know that, but having looked it up you appear to be correct.
You are untrue to your Torah, unlike the Christians who followed it to the letter.
Tumah
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Apparently G-d only opens the eyes of non-Jews to belief.