What is wrong with believing in both science and religion?

[ronki23]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

 

[Altfish]

Firstly there is nothing wrong with believing in science and religion, The Pope and Archbishop of Canterbury already do.

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

Can't say I agree with that, science tells us 'why' too.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Science is working on cures, what is religion doing?

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

btw The Moon is NOT a planet.
That's one way of interpreting ambiguous scripts.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

Religions have predicted little. Humans have later interpreted badly written texts to favourably make a prediction...after the fact.

 

[HonestJoe]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I disagree. Science is a set of systems, methods and procedures which can be used to formally study things. Religions are multiple different codified sets of beliefs, rules and practices. I don't see the two concepts are opposites or parallels but entirely separate and unrelated ones.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

With respect, Hinduism didn't do any of these things, people did. They may have been Hindu and that faith may even have directed and influenced their studies but given people with all sorts of different beliefs (including none) also discovered and invented things, it can't be a key or required factor. I'd suggest that in discovering these things, they probably followed variations of scientific method too, even if they didn't formally identify it as such.

I'd also question any statement about a religion discovering things. In my experience, this is often the case of very selected interpretations of poetic scripture, turned to fit modern discoveries and understanding after the fact. That isn't to say there wasn't great study and understanding in history, inducing within Hindu culture, but the extent of such understanding is often exaggerated by modern descendants.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

As long as you can differentiate between science and religion there's nothing wrong on a personal level.

What's wrong between sciences and religion is whenever religion is put on equal terms with science. Religion is just not science and science is not a religion.

 

[syo]

We can't create life

true. we simply play with the manifestations.

 

[Yerda]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why...

Hi.

It's perfectly fine to be religious and take science at face value as a descriptive and predictive tool.

 

[ronki23]

Firstly there is nothing wrong with believing in science and religion, The Pope and Archbishop of Canterbury already do.


Can't say I agree with that, science tells us 'why' too.


Science is working on cures, what is religion doing?


btw The Moon is NOT a planet.
That's one way of interpreting ambiguous scripts.


Religions have predicted little. Humans have later interpreted badly written texts to favourably make a prediction...after the fact.

I already said that

 

[WalterTrull]

hmmm... I think maybe your belief compass is being swayed. Do you carry or wander near amulets of any sort? Perhaps you frequent bars where they have volumes containing religious or scientific esoterica ? It happens. Science and religion are both apophenia (my new word for the week, learned here on RF) snugglers. Given that, and in my view, there is certainly no problem following both their allegations. Interestingly enough, their assertions seem to be converging these days. I wonder if there will be fist fights.

 

[David T]

Firstly there is nothing wrong with believing in science and religion, The Pope and Archbishop of Canterbury already do.


Can't say I agree with that, science tells us 'why' too.


Science is working on cures, what is religion doing?


btw The Moon is NOT a planet.
That's one way of interpreting ambiguous scripts.


Religions have predicted little. Humans have later interpreted badly written texts to favourably make a prediction...after the fact.

It's a clothing conflict. Lab coat vs pope robe.

Now non Catholics tend to want to wear the pope robe many non denominationalists get really confused and believe they are the pope. Now science tends takes a more pragmatic approach to their robe. They call it a lab coat. But some of them even get a but way too styling l. That's what the evolution vs intelligent design forum is actually. People arguing over robes. I absolutely did not answer the question but I had fun writing it!!!!
Science is modern nice buttons....

Religion is old mythology. Look it buttons down the middle and he has silly cape shoulders.

 

[Trackdayguy]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

Why is about wrong & right ?

 

[idav]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

How is objective. We can believe we know why but it’s speculation and highly subjective especially concerning why God does anything.

 

[Woberts]

It's a clothing conflict. Lab coat vs pope robe.

Now non Catholics tend to want to wear the pope robe many non denominationalists get really confused and believe they are the pope. Now science tends takes a more pragmatic approach to their robe. They call it a lab coat. But some of them even get a but way too styling l. That's what the evolution vs intelligent design forum is actually. People arguing over robes. I absolutely did not answer the question but I had fun writing it!!!!
Science is modern nice buttons....
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Religion is old mythology. Look it buttons down the middle and he has silly cape shoulders.
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The Pope also has............... the Popemobile!

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

This is a bit of a rambling opening statement. Do you care to narrow your approach a little.

 

[Phantasman]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

Don't really know the Abrahamic view on things but in Hinduism they believed that the Sun and Moon were not planets and they discovered planets too. I believe in Hinduism also acknowledged that there were multiple galaxies which contained stars and planets we could not see. Hinduism also predicted matter and antimatter.

I'd like to know what the different religions predicted

Science is understanding the physical (atomic makeup) and Christianity is the understanding of spiritual (non atomic) makeup. I cannot speak from religious thoughts of others, just my own.

One has to come to the conclusion of whether thought (of mind) is physical in nature or spiritual. I see the latter.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Personally, I don't want belief: I want knowledge. Religious belief becomes fundamentalism, belief in science (as opposed to the discoveries of science) becomes scientism.

 

[Valjean]

Science tells us how it works, religion tells us why.

First thoughts: the question seems schizophrenic. It's comparing apples and air conditioners. What do these two things have in common? They're pretty much opposites.

Science' conclusions are based on observation and testing. They're falsifiable and subject to revision as new data comes to light.

Religious beliefs are based on pre-rational indoctrination. They're based on nothing but tradition. They're writ in stone, they resist new data, and they're not falsifiable.
They're not rational.

I'm not entirely convinced that religion tells us why. "God did it/God wants it/It pleases God" seems pretty insipid.
Religion's purpose seems to be preservation of the social order through a shared narrative.

I don't see anything wrong with some unseen force creating the rules of the Universe even if he/she doesn't intervene. We can't create life or resurrect the dead; even our understandings of medical science is limited as people still die from cancer, AIDS, alzhiemers,etc.

I don't see anything "wrong" with it either, but I see it as folklore.
As for technology, what we can do today we couldn't do yesterday, and what we cannot do today perhaps we will be able to do tomorrow. It has nothing to do with truth or the nature of reality.

 

[Valjean]

hmmm... I think maybe your belief compass is being swayed. Do you carry or wander near amulets of any sort? Perhaps you frequent bars where they have volumes containing religious or scientific esoterica ? It happens. Science and religion are both apophenia (my new word for the week, learned here on RF) snugglers. Given that, and in my view, there is certainly no problem following both their allegations. Interestingly enough, their assertions seem to be converging these days. I wonder if there will be fist fights.

How is religion apophenic, and how are their assertions converging?

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Everyone believes in both science and god. Wrong or right.

But religion doesn't tell anyone anything. It can't talk.

 

[David T]

The Pope also has............... the Popemobile!
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I always give a winner to anything that literally causes me to chortle!!!! I call chortle an old man sound somewhere between laughter and a death rattle!

 

[Native]

I disagree. Science is a set of systems, methods and procedures which can be used to formally study things. Religions are multiple different codified sets of beliefs, rules and practices. I don't see the two concepts are opposites or parallels but entirely separate and unrelated ones.

Most religions also have their explanations of the creation and this part can easily be compared to modern cosmology so they are not separated in this matter.