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Featured What is wrong if human beings turn to G-d?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by paarsurrey, Mar 23, 2020.

  1. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    While Corona spreads, what is wrong if human beings turn to G-d, reform themselves and do good deeds?
    I see no harm in it. Right, please?

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    They remain fallible humans regardless.

    No harm? Which God?
     
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    Its crises like this that bring forward the best in humanity, especially from those whose lives are already 'turned to God', and even those who do not acknowledge God as the source.
     
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  4. bobhikes

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    It depends on how they define Good deeds.
     
  5. paarsurrey

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    Whatever concept of G-d one's heart and soul makes.

    Regards
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    [51:22]وَ فِیۡۤ اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ ؕ اَفَلَا تُبۡصِرُوۡنَ ﴿۲۲﴾
    And also in your own selves. Will you not then see?
    The Holy Quran - Chapter: 51: Adh-Dhariyat
     
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    It's certainly made me cut down my number of trips to the brothel and massage parlors.

    Oh come on, I was just kidding. Humor about morality is a major category of humor!

    Okay, yes, God is good. God is great. We should love each other. Bla, bla, bla....
     
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  7. paarsurrey

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    What is one's concept of good deeds, please?

    Regards
     
  8. paarsurrey

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    It seems one is not presently sure of oneself, is it so, please?

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    No, I see no harm in people doing any combination of those three separate things. :cool:
     
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  10. dfnj

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    Oh yes. God has no limits!

    But to be honest with you, when it comes to viruses, I focus my faith and hope with the scientists and healthcare workers over God. God usually drops the ball when it comes to short term unnecessary evil in favor of His long term plan. I would prefer solutions to our problems sooner rather than later. So on COVID-19, I'm going with humanity taking responsibility to address the problem with conviction.
     
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    I call this the golden rule of karma. If you cause suffering in others you will experience suffering in your life in equal proportion. And the contrapositive is true also. If you are responsible for causing other people to experience joy, happiness, and enthusiasm, you will also experience joy, happiness, and enthusiasm in your life in equal proportion. We are the authors of how we experience our life in the present.
     
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  12. paarsurrey

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    I didn't say that the scientists should not find a vaccine for the virus or the health care workers cease their work. While doing all such things one could turn to G-d. Isn't it possible, please?

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    Believing things in the absence of good evidence is not reasonable, whether there's a pandemic spreading or not.
     
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    For many, if not most, there is "no harm in it." For the rest the issue is not what they turn to but, rather, what they turn from, e.g., science and reason.
     
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    Turning to God is fine so long as it's for the right reasons. Looking to God for strength and hope is good. Looking to God for miracles and justification is not.

    And doing good, is good, innately. Regardless of how or why one chose to do so.
     
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    Some people believe stopping other than male/female marriages a good deed, others think preventing abortions a good deed. Some people think ostracizing people not of their religion a good deed. It really depends on the religion and how strongly they support the beliefs but not all the good deeds of others are in my opinion are good deeds.

    Sure if you want to offer food to those that don't have it.
    If you support financially those out of work because of this virus.
    If you prevent others illnesses by self quarantine because of the virus.

    IMO good deeds all but not everyone would agree.
     
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    If turning to God means hope I see little wrong with it. If people start attaching other concepts such as ignoring a vaccine in favour of only God and religion as treatment there is a major problem.
     
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    Plenty of human beings do good things currently WITHOUT god
     
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    I don't see no harm in it. I don't care for separating divinity from mundane. So, instead of an upgrade, we'd just have different "weapons" to address the problems.
     
  20. Unveiled Artist

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    I had to tilt my head, how so?

    Each of us on RF are part of humanity as well. Our US politics are far away from turning to a god. Then on top of that not everyone is christian and follows the same god-but that god(s) are their source to. There's got to be more than crisis that make people acknowledge one god over another, the christian god and not say Hindu, and be Christan and not Jewish, Bahai, Muslim, etc. if any??
     
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