QuestioningMind
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There is no single source. That's like asking what is the single source of all happiness and contentment. The reality is that you can find happiness and contentment from a variety of different sources.
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What is the Source of all goodness and all evil?
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There is no single source. That's like asking what is the single source of all happiness and contentment. The reality is that you can find happiness and contentment from a variety of different sources.
To know and meditate on His sovereignty and providence I suppose, that's what I get from it, which also is a comfort as I know nothing bad happens if He does not permit it and all good comes from Him, even as the Preacher says "who can eat or drink or have enjoyment apart from Him?" For God causes/gives these gifts, and when deprived of them I know it is for good reason and so can unite my will with His saying "whatever You will, I will."
As for being with God after death, I see it as Him sustaining our existence continually, and until the Resurrection of Glory (for those who are saved) there is a lack: not having our bodies. For a human being lacking His material part is... not sure how to express the ugliness and disturbing idea of it, it's almost like if clothing became sentient, that kind of disturbing to me. But in the Kingdom there will be no evil and only perfect goodness, yes.
What's the misunderstanding here that you see? It just seems to be a poetic line showing the lack children have at birth and how we go into the Earth with lack again (I say poetic line for it is quite literally poetry).
I see no misunderstanding, what i do see is faith in bronze age mores contrasted with current knowledge.
I could go into the 1st law of thermodynamics to explain current knowledge but i won't, I'll just leave it as believe what you want to believe.
Jeremiah Ames
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1. Lord
2. Me
Alright, God bless. Although I genuinely have never seen anyone connect thermodynamics to Job so that is a new thought to me.
I don't think we humans can judge universally what is right and wrong as I see us being too limited in our knowledge.
The fact of being human is going to make our ideas of right and wrong relative to us as a species.
Jeremiah Ames
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imo, Xavier, God doesn’t “struggle”
but God, through Divine Providence provides the means to save us from evil
we must choose the path to salvation with our own free will, though
evil is necessary to provide us with free will
without evil, we could only choose good
what kind of free will is that?
just my opinion
Jeremiah Ames
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I think we humans can judge what is right and wrong (since we do it all the time)
BUT, we will NEVER be correct
imo
ecco
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firedragon
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So moral relativism!
RestlessSoul
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RestlessSoul
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This would appear to be the case. Someone quite wise once asked, “either God is everything, or he is nothing. Which is it to be?”
If God is everything, He must be both the light and the darkness. Maybe these diverged at the moment of creation, the Big Bang; out of the darkness came the light, and vice versa.
Without opposing forces, night and day, birth and death, good and evil, there is no story. And what are we, if not characters in a story?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Answer to the first question would be : Allah
Answer to the second question would be: Ego
ajay0
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1 . My answer would be awareness or mindfulness.
Being truthful can be a vice at times. If a robber or bully is pursuing his victim (who is running away and had hidden behind a tree), and asks you where he is hiding, it would obviously be a vice to say the truth of where the intended victim is hiding.
Such truthfulness would obviously be stupidity.
Present moment awareness helps one to understand and respond to the situation as it is, rather than on the basis of conditioning.
Since Awareness is considered to be truth in Hinduism, being Aware is considered to be the same as being truthful. In such a context, I agree with the bahai teaching.
2. The source of all evil as per Hindu philosophy is considered to be raag-dvesh or strong desires in the form of cravings and aversions, which is the source of all vices like lust, hatred, greed and corresponding crimes like rape, murder, destructive tendencies , robbery and so on.
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
In single words...? That's rather simplistic, but... okay:
Foundation of good: Selflessness
Foundation of evil: Ego
Humbly
Hermit
That it will depend on your definition of 'good' and your definition of 'evil'.
In my view a thing is good if I approve of it, or if it is advantageous to me or mine or the causes I support.
And a thing is 'evil' if I disapprove of it , or if it is disadvantageous to me or mine or the causes I support.
Human nature.
I'd ask why I was being limited to one word, and fail their test.
People. But there are a few reasons for that answer.
Are you suggesting that truthfulness cannot be the source of sins, evil or wrongdoings? That doesn't seem right to me.
Although I do value truthfulness in general terms.
William Blake: "The truth, told with bad intent, beats all the lies you can invent."
For example: Someone's mother had Alzheimer's Disease, and could not remember that her husband (mom's husband) had died. The daughter was told that she must ground her mother in reality, so had to correct her when she was wrong. Informed of her husband's passing, she burst into tears. This went on over and over and over throughout the days, for years. A simple lie would have made her think that her husband went to the grocery store, instead.
Torture is more wrong than lies, in this case.
Sometimes the police use lies. They stop people from committing suicide, or shooting hostages. Sometimes lies are more useful and helpful than the truth.
If someone brags excessively, they might bruise the egos of those around them. It could be taken for pride or hubris rather than simple truthfulness.
Truthfulness is God's sword on earth and in every soul. But most people don't take, it's too strong of a nature and weapon, and so they lie/deceives to others and themselves.
So is God going to condemn all these liars? Yes and no. Michael and the Angels under him will try to use their niceness or charity or good acts in general out of kindness and compassion, even in their deceiving to themselves state, and defeat their darkness.
Truthfulness is a stage if one get's, they can slice and dice through the shadows and get to God's light easily and remain there.
If someone fears God, they will attain wisdom, whether they know God exists or not. But in the mean time, till they do, Michael uses their good deeds.
The problem is when someone is shameless, their good deeds are done with same intention of their evil deeds, and then Michael and his Angels can't really help such a person. This is the state of people who fornicate in public (porn stars) for example, none of their actions can Michael actually help them with and his Angels can't help such souls, but will be overcome by the darkness if they try.
According to hadiths of Imam Musa Al-Kadhim (A) - the long and certain one that he talks about reasoning and intelligence of believers, he describes 72 armies of intelligence and 72 armies of ignorance.
Adan (call to prayer) summons the armies of light and Aqama makes them stand strong. Salah connects them to God in various ways when one is not intoxicated with love of Dunya and Iblis deceptive call.
So if one is not truthful, it doesn't mean God close the door of salvation for them, through other deeds they can attain salvation and eventually become truthful. But if someone let's the armies of ignorance make them disbelieve in God and his Messengers and chosen ones and scriptures and Angels, then everything falls apart. If the light is destroyed by our living sins, then God tries his best, but usually there is nothing he can do. What I mean by best, is within reasonable paradigm. Of course, if God wanted to, he can make sure we all get guided and every soul receives it's guidance. I'm not talking from that perspective, but from the reasonable paradigm and design of God of the trial.
To answer your question though, I believe the door of all good is Mohammad (s). Mohammad is my one word. If you connect to him and ask him to intercede for you, ask him along with his family, wonders open up, and we eventually leave our lying to ourselves and others state, to that of the light of God including his ultimate sword which is a state of being fully truthful.
Allah (swt) opens up so many doors when people come to the family of the reminder of their time and ask them for intercession and ask them to ask forgiveness for them for their evil deeds, and seek their needs from God through them.
As for one word for evil, it's ungratefulness.
And peace be upon who follows the guidance, it's been revealed to me that punishment is upon who denies and turns away.
So is God going to condemn all these liars? Yes and no. Michael and the Angels under him will try to use their niceness or charity or good acts in general out of kindness and compassion, even in their deceiving to themselves state, and defeat their darkness.
Truthfulness is a stage if one get's, they can slice and dice through the shadows and get to God's light easily and remain there.
If someone fears God, they will attain wisdom, whether they know God exists or not. But in the mean time, till they do, Michael uses their good deeds.
The problem is when someone is shameless, their good deeds are done with same intention of their evil deeds, and then Michael and his Angels can't really help such a person. This is the state of people who fornicate in public (porn stars) for example, none of their actions can Michael actually help them with and his Angels can't help such souls, but will be overcome by the darkness if they try.
According to hadiths of Imam Musa Al-Kadhim (A) - the long and certain one that he talks about reasoning and intelligence of believers, he describes 72 armies of intelligence and 72 armies of ignorance.
Adan (call to prayer) summons the armies of light and Aqama makes them stand strong. Salah connects them to God in various ways when one is not intoxicated with love of Dunya and Iblis deceptive call.
So if one is not truthful, it doesn't mean God close the door of salvation for them, through other deeds they can attain salvation and eventually become truthful. But if someone let's the armies of ignorance make them disbelieve in God and his Messengers and chosen ones and scriptures and Angels, then everything falls apart. If the light is destroyed by our living sins, then God tries his best, but usually there is nothing he can do. What I mean by best, is within reasonable paradigm. Of course, if God wanted to, he can make sure we all get guided and every soul receives it's guidance. I'm not talking from that perspective, but from the reasonable paradigm and design of God of the trial.
To answer your question though, I believe the door of all good is Mohammad (s). Mohammad is my one word. If you connect to him and ask him to intercede for you, ask him along with his family, wonders open up, and we eventually leave our lying to ourselves and others state, to that of the light of God including his ultimate sword which is a state of being fully truthful.
Allah (swt) opens up so many doors when people come to the family of the reminder of their time and ask them for intercession and ask them to ask forgiveness for them for their evil deeds, and seek their needs from God through them.
As for one word for evil, it's ungratefulness.
And peace be upon who follows the guidance, it's been revealed to me that punishment is upon who denies and turns away.
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