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Featured What is the purpose of life?

Discussion in 'Theological Concepts' started by Sharikind, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. Shantanu

    Shantanu Well-Known Member

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    They still survive if they have their wits about them. Those who do not perish as Space decides who lives and who dies. That is evolution.
     
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    What a person achieves with ones talent depends on what Space enables in the course of evolution and how the person reacts to those influences. A full life does not mean only utilising one talent but how to survive in a complex world with one's talents.
     
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    Life evolved in water. Therefore, natural selection at the nanoscale, is based on organic chemicals becoming optimized to the potentials within the aqueous chemical environment.

    As an analogy, say we start with a cold Arctic environment and release a boat load of animals from all over the world into that environment. The cold Arctic environment would weed out most of these animals. What is left is what would be able to withstand that environment. The rest is weeded out.

    Water works the same way at the nanoscale. DNA, RNA and protein are among the last chemical things standing in that environment. They are optimized to water. If we did this again, it would end the same way, similar to another boat load of world animals placed in the Arctic would skinny down to the same types.

    One observation about life is life is composed of highly ordered systems right down to template relationships on the DNA. Order lowers entropy compared to the same molecules allowed to free to move about and act randomly. This high level of order in life, violates the second law which requires that entropy increase. The balance in entropy occurs via dynamics of living such as metabolism. Pursuing our talents and dreams is satisfying since it satisfies the second law. The order within the nanoscale of life needs to be balanced by creative perturbations, with the perturbation advancing the order.

    Humans can alter the environment. This reflects humans as the highest entropy critters in terms of their output. This increase of entropy, relative to nature, is driven by the entropy potential, created within the order of the human brain and body. Imagination is also an entropy generator.

    The water-entropy affect has its basis in the water-oil affect. If we mix water and oil and shake well, we can form an emulsion. The emulation is higher in entropy and follows random principles. If we let the emulsion settle the water and oil will spontaneously separate back into order; two layers. This aqueous and organic drive into order, reduces entropy and sets a potential for change.

    At the same time, any change in the organics has to occur in an aqueous nano-environment which is based on the potentials within water. Life sets up a path of increasing complexity in terms of output, from a system of even increasing complexity of order.

    The brain is a major focal point for the entropy economy of the body. The meaning of life is to go with the flow of nature; your inner order or talents, and use the brain and willpower to perturb the environment in ways that allow your order to further increase in complexity, so the entropy potential can increase even further. Will power and choice is connected to entropy.

    The entropy we wish to express should be life affirming or leads to higher complexity of order and not just destruction into higher entropy. A new idea can be like a seed that can expand into higher order, while also satisfying the needs of the entropy of others via their imagination and actions.
     
  4. David T

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    That gives you meaning. And that aint a bad thing..
     
  5. Sharikind

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    Now I have a question. Does space communicate with a person as to what is good or bad?
    Genesis 2
    15The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
    So according to this, God drew the line when it came to what He thought was good or bad.
     
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    No, it ain't. But even in religion things can get mixed up and hurtful.
     
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    I would suppose we are born with proclivities towards some beneficial action and possibly the options are not fulfilled or exercised in one's lifetime.
     
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    Look at it this way. People who struggle to live are thankful for everything.
     
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    Is that an anime profile picture? Sorry I’m sleepy so it could just be an angel
     
  10. Shantanu

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    Space does communicate with everyone: it is all dependant on ones genetics as to what Space tells us.
     
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    We all have talents: the question is whether anyone appreciates them.
     
  12. Sharikind

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    There are other concepts. About space, can you or do you pray to space?
     
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    So Space is a thinking entity? Space has a conscience? Frankly, I think you mean environment and genetics when you speak of Space.
     
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    No I do not pray to Space. One can pray to Space. It contains billions of gods and goddesses to whom one can individually pray and take instructions from to carry out your actions.
     
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    Space is not a single thinking entity unified under the Creator's directives, but is a computerised machine with thinking parts that living beings relate to and take instructions from. It pops into the visible universe at the will of the Creator. The Creator can be contacted by the living beings through faith, devotion and surrendering one's free will.
     
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    So if I read your answer correctly, you say one can pray to space?
     
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    I will clarify this for you:

    You can commune with Space but you have to pray to the individual guna consciousness dieties that exist in space, like Jesus, Allah, Vishnu, Brahma, Saraswati, etc just to name a handful. Communing with Space means you are a non-dualist or vedantic advaitist. You cannot pray to Space as it is a heartless 'machine' (Consciousness).

    The Creator Nirguna God can be invoked as Saguna God into Space. You do not pray to Saguna God or commune with Saguna God either but you can communicate with Him (exchange messages) if you approach Him in faith, devotion and surrender. You cannot commune with Nirguna God who appears through maya as Paramatma to become Saguna God as Nirguna God is without attributes or is Emptiness.
     
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    Again, so -- what then is the purpose of life.
     
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    this is all very confusing. But thank you for trying to explain it to me. I have another question. Do you go to a temple? I really have to learn more about this, since it seems Hinduism is a large portion of the population, but being in the US and not being exposed much to hindu teachings, I know very little, so excuse for the many questions. And thank you for trying to answer.
     
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    The purpose of life is to exist.
     
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