What is the purpose of kippah hats?

[Kirran]

Look likes another forum. Can you make it short. What is it all about?

It's similar to the discussion here really. People who haven't seen that kippahs vary in size or read about how they link in to Jewish understandings of scripture and faith assert that they're to do with bald patches, and people who know something about the subject deny that assertion.

 

[RabbiO]

Yes but... Liberal Jews... their way of doing things is deeply flawed for themselves but that is an entirely different topic.

If I eliminate what I've put in blue and italicized I can make sense of the sentence --- although, respectfully, I disagree. What am I not understanding about the sentence?

I'm not looking to derail this thread, although that might be the kindest thing I could do. I'm just seeking clarification.

 

[sovietchild]

It's similar to the discussion here really. People who haven't seen that kippahs vary in size or read about how they link in to Jewish understandings of scripture and faith assert that they're to do with bald patches, and people who know something about the subject deny that assertion.

The best answer was "both" religious and bald spot hider. So, I was just wondering what is your take on that?

 

[Kirran]

If I eliminate what I've put in blue and italicized I can make sense of the sentence --- although, respectfully, I disagree. What am I not understanding about the sentence?

I'm not looking to derail this thread, although that might be the kindest thing I could do. I'm just seeking clarification.

If you wanna have a discussion about this in a new dedicated thread, I'll read with interest (y)

The best answer was "both" religious and bald spot hider. So, I was just wondering what is your take on that?

My take is that you still don't understand that most kippahs do not correspond to the sizes of bald patches. The small kippahs we often see nowadays are basically just the smallest and least obtrusive head covering feasible. They weren't independently invented, they're a natural progression from larger kippahs (and other head coverings) which cover the whole head.

 

[sovietchild]

If you wanna have a discussion about this in a new dedicated thread, I'll read with interest (y)



My take is that you still don't understand that most kippahs do not correspond to the sizes of bald patches. The small kippahs we often see nowadays are basically just the smallest and least obtrusive head covering feasible. They weren't independently invented, they're a natural progression from larger kippahs (and other head coverings) which cover the whole head.

Don't most of the Israel men have bald spots on top of the skull? Maybe there is a connection.

 

[Kirran]

Don't most of the Israel men have bald spots? Maybe there is a connection.

Most Israeli men don't wear a kippah.

 

[sovietchild]

Most Israeli men don't wear a kippah.

Yes, but there is a purpose for everything.

 

[Kirran]

Yes, but there is a purpose for everything.

Yup. And the purpose of the kippah is to fulfill the religious requirement of keeping the head covered using the minimum level of fabric and ostentatiousness feasible.

 

[sovietchild]

Yup. And the purpose of the kippah is to fulfill the religious requirement of keeping the head covered using the minimum level of fabric and ostentatiousness feasible.

Yes, head covered, and not just the top of the skull. Seems very strange for them to do that, since lots of men have bald spots on top of the skull.

 

[Kirran]

Yes, head covered, and not just the top of the skull. Seems very strange for them to do that, since lots of men have bald spots on top of the skull.

Fulfills religious requirements.

 

[sovietchild]

Fulfills religious requirements.

Yes, plus hides the bald spot and makes one look younger at the same time. Clever!

 

[Kirran]

Yes, plus hides the bald spot and makes one look younger at the same time. Clever!

I think you're reaching.

 

[rosends]

Fulfills religious requirements.

And blocks satellites from reading minds. Clever!

 

[sovietchild]

I think you're reaching.

The Jewish hat also known as the Jewish cap, Judenhut (German) or Latin pilleus cornutus ("horned skullcap"), was a cone-shaped pointed hat, often white or yellow, worn by Jews in Medieval Europe and some of the Islamic world. Initially worn by choice, its wearing was enforced in some places in Europe after 1215 for adult male Jews to wear while outside a ghetto in order to distinguish Jews from others. Like the phrygian cap it often resembles, the hat may have originated in pre-Islamic Persia—a similar hat was worn by Babylonian Jews.

Jewish hat - Wikipedia

It would be an even nicer poster if we could read the print at the bottom.

It even says here, the fashion started in Europe, where it's not so hot. The chances are who ever jump started this fashion had a bald spot, don't you think so?

 

[Kirran]

It even says here, the fashion started in Europe, where it's not so hot. The chances are who ever jump started this fashion had a bald spot, don't you think so?

The post you quote 1) isn't talking about kippahs and 2) doesn't say that the hat it is talking about derives from Europe, but from the Middle East.

 

[sovietchild]

The post you quote 1) isn't talking about kippahs and 2) doesn't say that the hat it is talking about derives from Europe, but from the Middle East.

Yes, but how did it got jump started and where? Europe!

 

[Flankerl]

If I eliminate what I've put in blue and italicized I can make sense of the sentence --- although, respectfully, I disagree. What am I not understanding about the sentence?

I'm not looking to derail this thread, although that might be the kindest thing I could do. I'm just seeking clarification.

- low birthrates
- high intermarriage
- few descendants identify as Jews further down the line

Its just statistics.

 

[Kirran]

Yes, but how did it got jump started and where? Europe!

Again, it is not talking about kippahs.

 

[sovietchild]

Again, it is not talking about kippahs.

I thought Jewish caps were kippahs.

 

[Kirran]

I thought Jewish caps were kippahs.

There are many other types of hat worn by Jews. The 'Jewish hat' referred to by that article is described in it. Read the quote.