What is the most fundamentalist city in your country?

[Valjean]

Colorado City, Arizona, is pretty much owned and run by a heretical, polygamist, LDS sect. Outsiders are not welcome. Absolute complience with the religion and social order is mandatory. The society is insular. Wonen wear distinceive dress. I've heard TV and contact with the outside world is forbidden.

 

[kai]

there are no fundamentalist cities in britain we are a pretty secularist country there are however enclaves of immigrants who have their own mosques ,temples etc. being rundown shoddy innercity or whatever i couldnt name any city considered to be fundamentalist, most people in britain would ask ,fundamentalist what!

 

[michel]

Of all the cities in your country, which is the most fundamentalist - in terms of any particular faith?

I don't know of one, in England; maybe that is because of our nature (conservative, placid, accepting of other's points of view), but I can certainly think of two cities where Religion has caused great trouble because of ethnic minority migrants to England, those are London, Manchester (and a town, Bradford).

In the above there is a great deal of unrest amongst the Muslims; in one (Bradford), there was an example of minority groups fighting each other; in that case, it was Muslims Vs People from pakistan.

Maybe you will get a better idea of the problem by looking here.

 

[c0da]

Soho is actually a lovely place, I'm guessing you just went down a few back streets and ended up in a bit of a red light district.

Ha, that would probably explain the raunchily dressed woman stood in the doorway of some dodgy looking house then!

 

[bigvindaloo]

I live in Sydney so this will not qualify as a "fundamentalist city". But the most fundamentalist district in Sydney would probably be the Hills district, home of "Hillsong". "The Hills are alive, to the sound of %**#!".

 

[Djamila]

Sydney... I had a good belly laugh during the riots there months ago. All these white, European men with signs, "We grew here, you flew here!" protesting immigration. Hahaha. Really? Your people grew in Sydney? Sure your ancestors weren't ditched there from some prison ship centuries ago?

 

[Booko]

the town i live in (go figure) if i dont keep my religion secret ill probably be beaten with a cane.

Well, yeah, and don't invite any friends of another race over either, or your neighbors might stop by to escort them out of town. :cover:

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I know Ottawa, Ohio has a large percentage of the population consisting of Catholics. There not too fond of Slater's Pagan beliefs. Kokomo, Indiana, used to be very conservative, but people are starting to make it known that they are Pagan, and others are starting to get used to it. Thiers still some who refuse to accept it, but thats thier problem, not ours.

 

[Katzpur]

Colorado City, Arizona, is pretty much owned and run by a heretical, polygamist, LDS sect. Outsiders are not welcome. Absolute complience with the religion and social order is mandatory. The society is insular. Wonen wear distinceive dress. I've heard TV and contact with the outside world is forbidden.

Ooooo! :cover: It's not my intention to over-react, but please don't use the term "polygamist LDS sect," even if you precede it with the word "heretical." Or at least make it clear that it's a splinter group that is in no way, shape or form part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I just want everyone who doesn't already know this, to understand that these people are not just a more conservative division of our Church, like Orthodox, Conservative and Reform Jews. They are not Latter-day Saints by any stretch of the word.

 

[Katzpur]

I can certainly think of two cities where Religion has caused great trouble because of ethnic minority migrants to England, those are London, Manchester (and a town, Bradford).

Interesting. My ancestors on my dad's side were from Bradford.

 

[James the Persian]

I don't know of one, in England; maybe that is because of our nature (conservative, placid, accepting of other's points of view), but I can certainly think of two cities where Religion has caused great trouble because of ethnic minority migrants to England, those are London, Manchester (and a town, Bradford).

In the above there is a great deal of unrest amongst the Muslims; in one (Bradford), there was an example of minority groups fighting each other; in that case, it was Muslims Vs People from pakistan.

Maybe you will get a better idea of the problem by looking here.

Michel,

Bradford's a city, just not a terribly large one. Having grown up on the border between Leeds and Bradford (Leeds side but they pretty much run into one another) I'm only too familiar with the place. I went for Bradford myself.

James

 

[Valjean]

Ooooo! :cover: It's not my intention to over-react, but please don't use the term "polygamist LDS sect," even if you precede it with the word "heretical." Or at least make it clear that it's a splinter group that is in no way, shape or form part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I just want everyone who doesn't already know this, to understand that these people are not just a more conservative division of our Church, like Orthodox, Conservative and Reform Jews. They are not Latter-day Saints by any stretch of the word.

Sorry Katzpur. I didn't mean to imply that the Colorado City FLDS church was a part of mainstream Mormonism. I realize this group is condemned by the LDS church, but don't the members of this sect believe they are upholding the original, unadulterated teachings of Joseph Smith and consider themselves the 'true' LDS church?

 

[Katzpur]

Sorry Katzpur. I didn't mean to imply that the Colorado City FLDS church was a part of mainstream Mormonism. I realize this group is condemned by the LDS church, but don't the members of this sect believe they are upholding the original, unadulterated teachings of Joseph Smith and consider themselves the 'true' LDS church?

Yeah, they probably do. But since we're the "mother church," we get to make the rules and say who's a "real" Latter-day Saint and who's not.

Besides, we have two very good pieces of evidence to support our position:

1. We believe in continuing revelation and that the current prophet always has the Gid-given right to receive new revelation on behalf of the Church as a whole. One prophet can receive a commendment concerning a law (i.e. polygamy) that is to be practiced for a period of time. Another prophet can come along sixty or eight years later and say that it's now time to stop. These guys are recognizing only the original commandment. By denying that the later prophet also had the right to speak authoritatively, they are the ones who chose to make the break.

2. One of our Articles of Faith states, "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." Unlike some other non-mainstream religions, we believe that the laws of the land are necessary. When the Mormon pioneers were driven from their homes in the midwest in 1846, they came to what is now Utah, but what was then part of Mexico. There were no laws against polygamy. That's one of the reasons they felt justified in continuing the practice. When Utah wanted to become a state, it became necessary for the practice to be discontinued in order that the laws of the land could temporarily take precedence. (I say "temporarily," because we still believe that plural marriage is a "celestial law." We don't condemn it as a doctrine; we just condemn it as a practice here and now.) These fundamentalist groups on the Utah-Arizona border obviously see no need to obey the laws of the land.

Yikes. I didn't mean to turn this thread into an expose on fundamentalist ex-Mormons. I hope I didn't derail it too bad.

 

[bigvindaloo]

Sydney... I had a good belly laugh during the riots there months ago. All these white, European men with signs, "We grew here, you flew here!" protesting immigration. Hahaha. Really? Your people grew in Sydney? Sure your ancestors weren't ditched there from some prison ship centuries ago?

These problem behaviours were mainly caused by alcohol rather than racism per se. This incident could have been managed as a reasonable protest against hooliganism disturbing the peace on beaches in that area. Instead, all sort of fringe groups got involved and things got out of hand due to mob mentality.

Racism was a cause of both the loutish behaviour on the beaches, and the behaviour of the crowd. That aside, these events are the result of stereotyping others on racial grounds. A bit like maintaining all white, European men hold signs that say the same thing.