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What is the Jewish Understanding of Exodus 6:3, YHWH, G-d, and Hashem?

rosends

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  1. Rambam didn't write in English, he wrote in Judeo-Arabic, so he didn't write anything called "Articles of Faith." A more correct translation of what he wrote in his commentary of the Mishnah is "Foundations of the Torah."
  2. I am not a part of a "sect."
  3. No in my community we don't quote "Foundations of the Torah" every day. That is the tradition of certain Ashkenazi communiteis and further they are not quoting what the Rambam wrote, they are quoting a summary of what the Rambam wrote that was made by an anonymouse source.
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The following is a translation into Hebrew of what the Rambam wrote.

חב"ד | עיקרי היהדות | 13 עיקרי האמונה היהודית
There is also a practice (according to some, I guess) to recite the 13 Ikkarim in a different form every day:
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Ehav4Ever

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rosends

Well-Known Member
Is that siddur one of the nusakh Ashkenaz?
Yes, that's teh Artscroll ashkenaz siddur. My siddur (tefillat hashalem) has them listed after shacharit and the 6 zechirot, but doesn't include any "instructions" that would indicate that people say them daily
 

David Davidovich

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The difference is that you have asked this question before in other threads while ignoring what I wrote. If you are making a statement rather a question it is more honest to simply make the statement. So, I can only assume, based your response, that you are actually making a statement. I have seen your statement and I recognize it as a statement.

Because you, as you admitted, you don't know Hebrew and I know that your ideas as a JW come from other people and not from things you read for yourself in a Hebrew/Aramaic text there isn't much for us to discuss.

That is actually true. Also, that is even what the Watchtower teaches.

A HUMAN CHANNEL

From such experiences it can be seen that Jehovah God caused the Bible to be written in such a way that one needs to come in touch with His human channel before one can fully and accurately understand it. True, we need the help of God’s holy spirit, but its help also comes to us primarily by association with the channel Jehovah God sees fit to use.—1 Cor. 2:6-10.

OUR VIEW OF THE “SLAVE”

We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his “slave” to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn [now Warwick] headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the “remnant” and of the “other sheep,” than anywhere else upon earth.

click here: Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY (jw.org)

Therefore, Jehovah's Witnesses have a very myopic worldview and it's difficult to talk to them about various topics since they feel that they are the ones that need to explain things to other people.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Is that siddur one of the nusakh Ashkenaz?

Among most Teimani siddurim, called Tiklal, the Yigdal is said only at the end of Arvit for Shabbat.

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I used to enjoy singing the Odon 'Olam at synagogue.
Here is what wikipedia says about that:
"Among Ashkenazim only thirteen lines are sung, one for each creed; the last line, dealing with the resurrection of the dead, is repeated to complete the antiphony when the hymn is responsorially sung by the Chazzan and congregation. Sephardim, who sing the hymn in congregational unison throughout, use the following line as the 14th: "These are the 13 bases of the Rule of Moses and the tenets of his Law".

What is of major interest to me, rather than whether the Ashkenazim alone perform this ritual or how often they do it, is if you believe the substance of it. Yigdal - Wikipedia
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
But your a JW, and it sounds like you are solidly in that realm. ;)

His children and grandchildren are Sephardim. Thus, I have a responsibility to help them in Torath Mosheh.
You do? Why would you say you have a responsibility to help them in Torath Mosheh? What will happen if they don't agree with you?
But beyond that, going back to the Hebrew texts you provided, can you briefly tell me what you want me to look for, since we ARE talking about the name of God. If it is beyond your realm to discuss this with me, thank you and let me know. :)
 

Ehav4Ever

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so don't you agree with the precepts if it's within your religion?

Torath Mosheh is not called a religion. I terms of precepts, I didn't use that word. ;)

Also, if you read my responses, and in other threads, you will see that I answered your question already. :)

The following video should answer your question further, especially since what the Rambam wrote is discussed in it.

 

Ehav4Ever

Well-Known Member
You do? Why would you say you have a responsibility to help them in Torath Mosheh?

Because it is one of the 613 mitzvoth.

What will happen if they don't agree with you?

Don't worry. If it happens, I will deal with that when I get to it. ;)

But beyond that, going back to the Hebrew texts you provided, can you briefly tell me what you want me to look for, since we ARE talking about the name of God. If it is beyond your realm to discuss this with me, thank you and let me know. :)

You asked a question for a short answer. I gave you a short answer, as you requested. If you were willing to do a Zoom you would have the answer so fast - you would probably end up being master in 5 lines of Hebrew. :)
 

Ehav4Ever

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What is of major interest to me, rather than whether the Ashkenazim alone perform this ritual or how often they do it, is if you believe the substance of it. Yigdal - Wikipedia

Let's do this in reverse.
  1. Who does the Wiki you quoted say composed the Yigdal?
  2. What exactly did the Rambam write and whe did he write it? I will give you a hint on both of them.
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Here is a Hebrew translation of what the Rambam wrote in his commentary of the Mishnah. You will notice how much longer and detailed it is. I go by this.

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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Because it is one of the 613 mitzvoth.



Don't worry. If it happens, I will deal with that when I get to it. ;)



You asked a question for a short answer. I gave you a short answer, as you requested. If you were willing to do a Zoom you would have the answer so fast - you would probably end up being master in 5 lines of Hebrew. :)
No worries. This is why I am happy where I'm at. Because I like answers that make sense.To me. Not saying they don't make sense to you.
So be well. I'm very happy knowing that the name of God is understandable in the Bible, was used by the Jews for a long time, was put out of usage because of whatever it was there. Thanks anyway, even though we don't agree about basic understanding, and I have not gotten clear answers from you.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Let's do this in reverse.
  1. Who does the Wiki you quoted say composed the Yigdal?
  2. What exactly did the Rambam write and whe did he write it? I will give you a hint on both of them.
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Here is a Hebrew translation of what the Rambam wrote in his commentary of the Mishnah. You will notice how much longer and detailed it is. I go by this.

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While the Yigdal is certainly interesting, and I enjoyed singing the 'odon olohm' when I went to synagogue, maybe an Ashkenazik tune, I'm much more interested in getting clear answers to my questions about God, His name as written in the Bible, why many do not use it or know it.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@Ehav4Ever , I have relatives in Ramat-Gan, don't know their names, visited them with my parents a while ago, they are Jewish, Ashkenazik, escapees from the horrible events of WW2.
 

Ehav4Ever

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What about the part of my family that is Ashkenazik?

If they would like I would have no problem communicating with them. I focused on the Sephardic side of your family based on hat you said you uncle stated. So, essentially anyone in your family who is not a christian I would have no problem talking to them.
 

Ehav4Ever

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I'm not worried. There must be plenty of people around you that you can explain things to.

Yes, there are but you brought up your non-Christian family for a reason, I assume, so I am offering to speak to the ones who are not Christian.

You don't have to put me in contact with them if you don't want to. ;)
 
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