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You know, this really asks for a little bit of context.
For instance, would you like to explain why the fourth option appears to be self-contradictory?
Why do you call those options definitions (which, frankly, they are not) instead of something more accurate such as perhaps "stances"? Or perhaps using actual definitions instead?
As for the last part of your question, do you mean perhaps a workable philosophy? Is there some implication that such a philosophy should connect to either atheism or to its alternatives? Is it a random question instead that you just felt like presenting alongside the unrelated matter of atheism? Something else?
As things stand, I have no idea of what you mean to ask, because you simply did not provide anywhere near enough information for some functional answer to be given.
And without the passion.
I think that the majority of non-theists are part of some traditional religious community. They stay for the community, but don't actually believe the god stuff.
Why bother saying so, if the community is important to you? And being honest won't get you anything but trouble?
Tom
Yeah that's been my experience. My father was a roaring atheist I was as a kid really a secularist in that society is all I experienced and understood. One night in a moment of alcohol induced philosohy he said " the ark is x by y by z cubits since it's impossible for all the animals on the planet could fit into that space the Bible is nonsense there is no god".
I think that the majority of non-theists are part of some traditional religious community. They stay for the community, but don't actually believe the god stuff.
Why bother saying so, if the community is important to you? And being honest won't get you anything but trouble?
Tom
I had zero idea what he was talking about and had zero idea who he was actually talking to since I had no point of reference. All atheism has religion as it's expert on the topic god. That is A very very unreliable expert to have. A topic can be both true and not understood at the same time. Religion is a prime example.
Yes because with passion then we no longer have scientific objectivity and everyone knows atheism is totally rational and scientific!!!!! Hahahahahaha. Now that is funny.
Btw I am pushing Aretha franklin movie amazing Grace. Not as a religious justification for belief but as something that displays the magic of music in a very profound way. A must see for those whom love music.
And double btw the song amazing Grace was originally written by a former slave ship captain. To know that and watch the movie is powerful in it's passion!!
You know that atheism has no such requirements, so I am left wondering why you misrepresent it.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Atheism is ONLY the lack of belief in any god or gods. It is no more a philosophy on life than a lack of belief in Santa Claus is a philosophy on life.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
It only exists in relationship to religion. It's mental illness without believers and it cannot understand why that is. Atheism is locked in the same vault as believers that incredibly stupid part of the brain self labeled by itself "higher functioning". Ha zero evidence of that.
I am atheist and i know what god is, a figment of the imagination used to make the believe feel better about themselves.
The definition of atheism is clear, you want it changed then talk to the varioys dictionary compilers
Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Same for gods, hence atheism
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
My vote is "God, if a god exists, has not demonstrated to me it exists. If and when it does, I will respond."
I see it as just the opposite.
We're born atheist, nonbelievers. Almost everyone is taught, from an early age, to believe in some form of religious fiction.
And most people continue to do so throughout their lives. So they seem to think that their fictional beliefs are the default, when it isn't. And anyone can see that, in the modern global world of zillions of religious world views.
Tom
Audie
Veteran Member
Uh no. We have ordinary people and we have godists.
We have flying saucerists. We even have a few
philosophers.
Are you an aflyinssaucerist and an aphilosopher?
An abigfootist and an amagicpyramidist?
If you want a definition, define yourself as an
abigfootiest, and toss in some philosophy, if
it suits.
Atheists are like, just people. If some people
want to be weird and believe the unbelievable,
let them. I am not defined in terms of them and
their idiocy.
Hard atheism is, “I believe that there is no God or gods.”
dingdao
The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching
Atheism without a philosophy becomes Nihilism.
I chose, “There is no God,” which is what I believe. It is, of course, based on evidence, reasoning, and the ontology that I hold to, which is a worldview without gods. It does not preclude a source and foundation for the world, but explicitly denies a person at the heart of it.
Terry Sampson
Well-Known Member
The Oxford Handbook of Atheism (Oxford Handbooks) 1st Editionby by Stephen Bullivant and Michael Ruse (2014)
https://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Handb...ndbook+of+Atheism&s=books&sr=1-1&unfiltered=1