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What is Qanon?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by shunyadragon, Aug 12, 2020.

  1. shunyadragon

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    What is Qanon?
    Qanon began in ~2017, and now is major player in the extreme right and the belief of more than 20 Republican candidates, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, at the national level, and a major player in Qanon had audiences with Trump in the White House.

    What is QAnon? How the conspiracy theory gained traction in 2020 campaign]

    QAnon first emerged in the months after President Trump took office, starting on fringe Internet message boards, before spreading to social media.

    Adherents allege, among other things, that the president is the target of so-called deep state actors, high-ranking officials plotting against him. The conspiracy quickly took off, and the president's supporters latched on to the mysterious Q.

    Signs and T-shirts appeared at Trump's campaign rallies. Last year, the FBI labeled the movement a potential domestic terror threat.

    Some congressional candidates, like Lauren Boebert in Colorado, promoted the conspiracy theory to friendly media outlets, before later calling QAnon fake news.

    According to Media Matters, a left-leaning watchdog group, 20 candidates, all Republicans, except one independent, with varying levels of support for QAnon conspiracies, have advanced to November's general election.

    And now Marjorie Taylor Greene's name will be on the ballot as well.

    To look more closely at the rise and spread of the QAnon conspiracy on the campaign trail, I'm joined by Travis View, co-host of the "QAnon Anonymous: podcast.

    Travis, welcome to the "NewsHour."

    You have been following the QAnon conspiracy theory and its followers for a very long time.

    Let's start with the basics, though, for those who haven't been. Just explain to us, where and how did the QAnon conspiracy begin?

    Travis View:

    The QAnon conspiracy theory originated on 4chan in October of 2017, though it has its origin in Pizzagate.

    The basic premise is that a group of high-level military intelligence officials close to President Trump, QAnon followers believe, are sending out secret coded messages on these image boards about this great grand battle of good vs. evil, in which Trump and what they call the Q Team are working to destroy a global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles, which the QAnon community believes is controlling everything. And that includes politician, entertainment and the media.
     
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    Oh good grief, Charlie Brown. Apparently people didnt learn how dumb and absurd the last Satanic Panics were (I'm still trying to figure out how MTG and DnD was supposed to teach us witchcraft). Are they going to start telling us to kill ourselves if we play their messages backwards?
     
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  3. Father Heathen

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    The liberal elite have children imprisoned within sex dungeons located in the basements of pizza parlors and torture them so they can drink their adrenalized blood. But fear not, Trump is on the case. He's on a secret mission to expose it and shut it down.
     
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  4. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Some people are having dystopian SF paranoid delusions.
     
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    Well, there is a (not so) secret deep state cabal. How else would you explain that Trump wasn't able to "drain the swamp", have a "beautiful health care system" and "bring the troops home"? The deep state just wouldn't let him do it.
     
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  6. fantome profane

    fantome profane Keep safe, and keep your neighbours safe.
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    For the same reason he wasn’t able to run a Casino.
     
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    This secret cabal of Satanists who have major world powers at their disposal seem to have forgotten that they could just have Trump assassinated. Surely that would be the easiest way to end his righteous crusade against their Dark Lord?

    Unless...

    Oh God! They replaced the real Trump with a demonic lizard alien! That explains his behaviour; his reptilian brain can't quite grasp the subtleties of human interactions.
     
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    Yes, the guy who admits to sexual assualt, has several credible rape accusations, was named in a court deposition by a 13 year old girl in the Epstein saga and has spoken about how he was able to force his way into the changing rooms of teenage girls. That guy is the guy who is going to stop Tom Hanks and Michelle Obama's evil schemes.
     
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    I've heard about this QAnon thing, although I'm not quite sure what to make of it. To some extent, considering the level of corruption, intrigue, abuses of power, wanton greed, atrocities, and man's inhumanity to man which are prevalent in the world, there's a certain human need to try to make sense of it all.

    Some of it may be a consequence of the culture of secrecy which exists, both in government and the private sector. This increases the level of suspicion which can become exacerbated by nefarious activities which are suspected or eventually found out. At first, the government denied that they ever used Agent Orange, but then they eventually had to admit it. They denied they had anything to do with the 1973 coup in Chile, but it eventually became clear that they did. When the Pentagon Papers came out, along with revelations about the FBI's COINTELPRO and various activities of the CIA and NSA, people started to view the government and America in a different light.

    Watergate was also another landmark event, where Nixon first said "I am not a crook," but then it turned out he was a crook all along.

    How can people be faulted or criticized for not blindly believing everything the government and Corporate America tell them? How can organized crime operate with such impunity for so long as they have?

    Many people are taught to believe that America is the "land of the free" and that our core principles include "liberty and justice for all," but then we see indications that that's not really true. This kind of blatant propaganda masked in pseudo patriotism can also raise suspicion and cynicism about the system we live under.

    I don't feel personally threatened by conspiracy theories, regardless of how wild and ridiculous they might sound. It's no skin off me if people say wild stuff about the government, corporations, or the wealthy and powerful elite.

    There are some people do feel threatened, though, and I never could fathom that mentality. I remember posting on a JFK board, and there were some who were virulently against the idea that there might have been a conspiracy to assassinate JFK. They had such zeal and ardent passion in their tone, along with nothing but utter contempt for conspiracy theorists, and I could never understand why. The anti-CT types never wanted to explain themselves or the source of their zeal.

    Whether or not the conspiracy theories are actually "true" is beside the point. The point is, they undermine faith in the system and make the elite squirm. This is not without a certain element of humor, along with a degree of entertainment value. I guess there's a certain schadenfreude that comes with people making up stuff out of left field about the ruling class and some people instantly believing it - even to the point of basing a political campaign on it. I think it's hilarious.
     
  11. tytlyf

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    Qanon is a troll who's taking advantage of low information voters easily swayed by panic mongering emotional trickery.
     
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    Oh, they're including Tom Hanks now? :rolleyes:
     
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    It's not just information they're low on. It takes a significant lack of intelligence to believe that such conspiracies are even remotely plausable.
     
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    True, lot's of psychological experiments and "think tanks" have figured out voters. The republican base is influenced easier by fear, paranoia, anxiety. So what do these republican elitists at Fox do? Exploit those emotions. 24/7 365. It works and the republican elitists continue corporate takeover of our government.
    Our government is no longer "for the people." Today it's "for the corporations".

    Reagan started the decline. (which is why these republican elitists hail Reagan as a messiah)
     
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    Oh yes. He's in jail now and the Tom Hanks we see on TV now and then is a replacement actor. Also Ellen is under house arrest and John McCain and George HW Bush were given the lethal injection for their crimes. Keep up.
     
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