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What is "Political Correctness" ?: Words with No Meaning

Paranoid Android

Active Member
I have heard people quoting the phrase "political correctness", and yet I have failed to hear from ANYONE what it exactly is. Now, I have a problem with a word or phrase quoted by people with no definition. For instance, say I was saying "dagoogle" yet I never quoted to you the exact meaning of the word "dagoogle". Does this mean it has no meaning ? No, but if I can not give you succinct definition of the word "dagoogle", you should draw serious questions about the meaning of "dagoogle" and in fact doubt whether it indeed exists.
So I am doing the same with the word "political correctness", I'm going to ask that you:

1) define what political position you take in politics ( Conservative ? Liberal ? Centrist ?)
2) Define for me the meaning of the word "political correctness" ( no, don't look at a dictionary!)
3) Give me a definition by the dictionary
4) If the definition by the dictionary is different than YOUR definition, then COULD **YOUR** definition ( not from a dictionary) be wrong ?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
1) define what political position you take in politics ( Conservative ? Liberal ? Centrist ?)

Fiscal conservative

2) Define for me the meaning of the word "political correctness" ( no, don't look at a dictionary!)

Ensuring your statement is not found offensive by any particular political group.

3) Give me a definition by the dictionary

Full Definition of POLITICALLY CORRECT
: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated

4) If the definition by the dictionary is different than YOUR definition, then COULD **YOUR** definition ( not from a dictionary) be wrong ?

Not necessarily. The dictionary provides usage. So if a word becomes commonly used with a certain specific meaning, it gets added.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
Fiscal conservative



Ensuring your statement is not found offensive by any particular political group.



Full Definition of POLITICALLY CORRECT
: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated

Do you feel that discussion of race or sex should have a legitimate place in discussions about politics ?

Not necessarily. The dictionary provides usage. So if a word becomes commonly used with a certain specific meaning, it gets added.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I have heard people quoting the phrase "political correctness", and yet I have failed to hear from ANYONE what it exactly is. Now, I have a problem with a word or phrase quoted by people with no definition. For instance, say I was saying "dagoogle" yet I never quoted to you the exact meaning of the word "dagoogle". Does this mean it has no meaning ? No, but if I can not give you succinct definition of the word "dagoogle", you should draw serious questions about the meaning of "dagoogle" and in fact doubt whether it indeed exists.
So I am doing the same with the word "political correctness", I'm going to ask that you:

1) define what political position you take in politics ( Conservative ? Liberal ? Centrist ?)

Speaking of words with no meaning...

I'm more or less on the left side of the political spectrum, if that's enough.

2) Define for me the meaning of the word "political correctness" ( no, don't look at a dictionary!)
3) Give me a definition by the dictionary
4) If the definition by the dictionary is different than YOUR definition, then COULD **YOUR** definition ( not from a dictionary) be wrong ?

It really depends on the context.

When it comes to speaking, a "politically correct" word or phrase is that which is "supposed" to be said. That is to say, the thing that will offend the fewest amount of people. It's not something typically said in earnest; it's purely meant to rally support.

When it comes to depictions in media, "politically correct" basically means having one of every minority. I regard it there as little more than a step up from tokenism, where the presence of "one of everything" isn't there for an honest depiction of diversity, but, again, for the sake of not being offensive to particular focus groups. The purpose is to have as wide an audience as possible in order to increase viewership, and by extension, profits.

Basically, it's a polite (shall we say, "politically correct"?) way of saying "pandering for views/votes/money".

Unfortunately, these dishonest usages of diversity and "proper language" have made it difficult for actual activists to be effective, since the two can often look the same on the surface. As a result, it can sometimes be used to refer to any sort of activist activity that a person might find uncomfortable, as a way to dismiss it. At least, that's my interpretation of such usages.

As for dictionary definitions, I'm going to use two dictionaries: the primary ones from dictionary.com, and the first one on Urban Dictionary.

From dictionary.com:

adjective
1.
marked by or adhering to a typically progressive orthodoxy on issues involving especially ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or ecology.
Abbreviation: PC, P.C.

And from Urban Dictionary:

A way that we speak in America so we don't offend whining *******.

Worth remembering that dictionaries are forever incomplete with their definitions, since words and terms always have deeper connotations that often go unrecorded. So yes, while I could be wrong, it's not dictionaries that are the final authority on such things; the final authority is whether or not other people understand what I'm saying.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Politically correct, simply means that a statement or position is coherent with social norms and values. Like avoiding calling women (other than our partners) 'darling', 'sweatheart' and so on. It is considered politically incorrect, simply because society has moved on from there.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
1) define what political position you take in politics ( Conservative ? Liberal ? Centrist ?)

I don't go for sides, I'll vote for whomever I think will better the country.

2) Define for me the meaning of the word "political correctness" ( no, don't look at a dictionary!)

In the context it is used in with me, political correctness is defined as being a way to criticize ones behavior.
How you speak, act, look, dress, etc.

3) Give me a definition by the dictionary

Full Definition of POLITICALLY CORRECT
: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated\

Source

4) If the definition by the dictionary is different than YOUR definition, then COULD **YOUR** definition ( not from a dictionary) be wrong ?

Yes.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'm very far left, and to me, for the most part, political correctness is for those who have nothing better to worry about. But, generally speaking, I have come to notice that political correctness can be deciphered as describing things more accurately than the "non-PC" ways of describing them, it can be a pathetic excuse to say "see, we're all inclusive," it can be pointless political bickering, or it is often used a way to "shield" some from insensitive view points. However, I rarely see it used to actually defend those that this term is allegedly supposed to be "protecting." Typically, it seems to be something that ignores context and who is using such "un-PC" terms and how, and that someone may not be aware of how such "terms" are interpreted. Personally, I'm not too fond of the word "tranny" due to it's connections with things such as Jerry Springer and pornography - and transmissions, and I hate working on cars - but there is clearly a difference between when someones says that just because and having no malicious intent behind it, and when it's said to put someone down.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Political correctness is intellectual colonialism by governments. A form of psychological fascism, if you will, for the creation of thought crime.

Now while I am personally no homophobic, I have friends who are. This always surprises people:

'They're homophobic?'
'Yep.'
'Well they shouldn't be!'
'Well they are.'
'Well they should stop!'
'Well they're not.'
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I agree with Neil Gaiman: "political correctness" just means "treating other people with respect."

It's normally used as an epithet by people who don't want to treat other people with respect.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I think this is a suitable definition.

The Definition of Political Correctness : "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical Liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous Left-stream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
How has nobody brought up 1984?
Probably because 1984 involved a totalitarian government that had complete control, whereas political correctness is typically just brought up by the overly zealous SJW who fail to realize things such as context, and overly zealous bigots who want to whine and complain that "the left" are controlling every facet of their lives.
 
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