InvestigateTruth
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Do Muslims believe God has a physical voice, like a mouth and actually talks like humans, and then He spoke verses of Quran to an Angel, and then that angel brought those words to Muhammad?
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What is nature of Revelations?
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KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Freudian slip?
Or a slip from Iblis and his forces. May God help me concentrate better and be resolved to not repeat such a mistake.
InvestigateTruth
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Why do you think God spoke through an angel to Muhammad, but He spoke directly to Moses? How about Jesus? Why in the Bible there is no mention that God was speaking to Jesus through angel Gabriel?
God spoke to Mohammad (s) at times directly to Mohammad (s) and some of Quran was revealed in that manner and (majority) of the time (most of Quran) through Gabriel (a). I believe that, because that is what Quran and hadiths state.
The wisdom is not simply about hearing words of God, but understanding them at the various levels of transmission to humanity. Gabriel shows how they can be understood by believers at various stages, because it his specialization with Angels under him, to extend God's special mercy and grace to believers till they are guided by Imam directly.
Also, aside from Gabriel, Michael also shows how to extend it to all of humanity (disbelievers included). So Michael and Gabriel were with him continuously, so that he can calculate his words to compliment the Quran in a very calculative way.
I'm not sure what Bahais teach about Gabriel and Michael, but Gabriel specials the title "Ar-Raheem", "ar-rahman" is Michael's delegation, and is the hardest of all roles of Angels.
The Quran is complimented by the Sunnah, but for Mohammad (s) to calculate his words to compliment them perfectly, Gabriel and Michael, show him various stages of how the words will be perceived by intellects, as they special in the unseen realm in the battle for minds and hearts.
Also, Ahlulbayt (a) calculate their words keeping in mind all this, but also the works of previous Imams (a). This why tafsir Hassan Al-Askari (a) is incredibly hard for hearts to accept and understand (some of it is fabricated but most of it is from Imam (a)), because it's one of the final gates build on top of gates, and unleashing one of the final knots on the tongue of Messengers (s).
Mohammad (s) tongue had a knot, and so couldn't say everything, because people ignorant propaganda, ignorance, and falsehood immersion.
Ali (a) was a gate to wisdom during his time, but, even his words were calculated in a way that couldn't unleash all wisdom.
The limits of their words as well as their penetrating ways, is all due, to what they perceive in the unseen but also what they learned from Gabriel (a) and Michael (a) in that regard. Their words are calculated keeping in mind all of humanity.
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@InvestigateTruth aside from intellects various stages, Gabriel and Michael both teach him to calculate the Sunnah to compliment the Quran in a way, to annul the dark magic and break any potential dark magic against the Quran.
It keeps in mind demonology and various spells of sorcerers, telepathy, energy, etc, and how to cancel and annul the Satanic potential snares.
Gabriel and Michael specialize in this battle and so revealing words and how they would be perceived while under dark magic is needed, to cure humanity.
So Mohammad (s) calculates his words and teaches, and purifies believers, keeping in mind all this reality, that Gabriel and Michael reveal when "words" are spoken to him by God and how they apply in various understanding.
Mohammad (s) also perceives the Quran beyond all that, and a higher level, that applies when one reaches the heaven and light, and is able to teach Quran at a higher level. And some words were spoken directly to Mohammad (s) when beyond realms of Gabriel, Angels, and Michael because they are meant for higher journey type understanding primarily.
It keeps in mind demonology and various spells of sorcerers, telepathy, energy, etc, and how to cancel and annul the Satanic potential snares.
Gabriel and Michael specialize in this battle and so revealing words and how they would be perceived while under dark magic is needed, to cure humanity.
So Mohammad (s) calculates his words and teaches, and purifies believers, keeping in mind all this reality, that Gabriel and Michael reveal when "words" are spoken to him by God and how they apply in various understanding.
Mohammad (s) also perceives the Quran beyond all that, and a higher level, that applies when one reaches the heaven and light, and is able to teach Quran at a higher level. And some words were spoken directly to Mohammad (s) when beyond realms of Gabriel, Angels, and Michael because they are meant for higher journey type understanding primarily.
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The pen writes 7 levels of heaven and Gabriel knows this and taught many holy books to Prophets (a) and how they appear at these levels, and also the words can pierce the darkness and 7 earths, and 7 gates of hell, and Michael knows how. The message conveyed by Messengers who are Anbiya (revealed divine books) are calculated keeping this in mind.
The king appointed by God writes through the pen, the pen and Angels writing is related to the Imamate and Authority of Ahlulbayt (a) and the Imam (a) of time. The Quran shows this authority that Talut (a) for example had, extends to all things in the universe.
The Witness from ourselves is the Imam (a) and so he witnesses deeds, and also the effects of dark magic. The Imam (a) although can't guide who he loves, does still like Michael and Angels under him, fight for lost souls and try to pull them to God. And Imam is the perfect of faith for believers, and like Gabriel and Angels under him, amplify God's grace and mercy.
The Imam is the holy spirit which is the power of God on earth and what pulls people towards God. Every soul has this guardian connected to them, and is the witness they will be called with, and the leader they will be called with and held accountable to a book of deeds through.
The king appointed by God writes through the pen, the pen and Angels writing is related to the Imamate and Authority of Ahlulbayt (a) and the Imam (a) of time. The Quran shows this authority that Talut (a) for example had, extends to all things in the universe.
The Witness from ourselves is the Imam (a) and so he witnesses deeds, and also the effects of dark magic. The Imam (a) although can't guide who he loves, does still like Michael and Angels under him, fight for lost souls and try to pull them to God. And Imam is the perfect of faith for believers, and like Gabriel and Angels under him, amplify God's grace and mercy.
The Imam is the holy spirit which is the power of God on earth and what pulls people towards God. Every soul has this guardian connected to them, and is the witness they will be called with, and the leader they will be called with and held accountable to a book of deeds through.