What is Monism all about?

[Itself]

What is MONISM all about?
The deception called reality.


ONE cannot evolve
and there is NO other
ONLY the deception
that makes ONE
appear to be many.


There is no evolution …
Dualities APPEAR to evolve
as one must hide the other
more and more
to APPEAR to evolve
more and more.


Dualities appear to evolve
to get more and more absurd/comical
as one must get more and more desperate
to hide the other
better and better ...
… until appearances vanish in the ONE
that thoughts make NONE.


O'no

 

[Wandered Off]

The deception called reality.

How does one determine that reality is a deception, while monism is not? Could it just as easily be the reverse? Why is monism incompatible with reality?

 

[Willamena]

How does one determine that reality is a deception, while monism is not?

Especially if monism is real.

 

[Valjean]

How does one determine that reality is a deception, while monism is not? Could it just as easily be the reverse? Why is monism incompatible with reality?

Physics

 

[Wandered Off]

Physics

I guess one-word answers are a form of monism...

 

[Valjean]

Indeed.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Some have called Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian) belief system a Monist system of belief. Indeed, I see it that way myself. Monism is the idea that there is no duality, that the limited physical perception of our limited human minds isn't the whole picture, that all life is actually connected, and that even the gods are connected by this one life. The one life above the gods themselves is the great god, which we in Kemet call Netjer, but which the Hindus call Brahman.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I consider myself a partial Monist at least

 

[Wandered Off]

partial Monist

Nominated for most ironic title of the week

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Oh really? LOL. Well it's true- I don't entirely suscribe to Monism I don't think, maybe Panentheism would be the word.

 

[Valjean]

Reality is different in different levels of consciousness.

Ultimately there is undifferentiated "isness," brane, prakriti or Brahman. As perception focuses and contracts, layers of illusion begin to accumulate and concepts of otherness and, eventually, even diversity emerge.

 

[Itself]

How does one determine that reality is a deception, while monism is not? Could it just as easily be the reverse? Why is monism incompatible with reality?

Monism means that there is ONLY ONE (monism)
that thoughts make NONE: NOW
... this means that everything else is fiction, thoughts,
NOW's fiction,
NOW's hallucination,
which we call reality.

reality is thus perfectly compatible with Monism, Now:
reality is Now's fiction, thoughts.

 

[Willamena]

Monism means that there is ONLY ONE (monism)
that thoughts make NONE: NOW
... this means that everything else is fiction, thoughts,
NOW's fiction,
NOW's hallucination,
which we call reality.

reality is thus perfectly compatible with Monism, Now:
reality is Now's fiction, thoughts.

If there is only one
where does everything else come from?

 

[A-ManESL]

Can someone explain the difference between monism and pantheism to me. It seems if everything is one, we can call this everything, God, and then monism becomes equal to pantheism. I feel I am missing something though.

Regards

 

[Onkara]

Can someone explain the difference between monism and pantheism to me. It seems if everything is one, we can call this everything, God, and then monism becomes equal to pantheism. I feel I am missing something though.

Regards

Hi A-Man
I found wikipedia's discription helpful, rather than try to put it in my words I have copied and pasted two parts here;

"Monism is any philosophical view which holds that there is unity in a given field of inquiry, where this is not to be expected.
While pantheism means all things are identical to God, panentheism means God is in all things, neither identical to, nor totally separate from all things."

Personally I see monism as an academic system of categorising ideas, nothing more. So Pantheism fits into monism, as does Advaita, however Advaita is closer to Panentheism... blink and you will miss it I am not convinced it is a useful term for a spiritual aspirant

 

[A-ManESL]

Personally I see monism as an academic system of categorising ideas, nothing more.

Hi Onkarah. I hope you are well.

Hmmm....so can we say that monism is a general philosophy of finding unity in any field of enquiry and when thought in terms of nature of God, it has a special name: pantheism?

I am not convinced it is a useful term for a spiritual aspirant

I agree. I feel a spiritual aspirant should be more interested in actually doing something spiritual, then in arguing abstract concepts.


Regards.

 

[Onkara]

Hi Onkarah. I hope you are well.

Hmmm....so can we say that monism is a general philosophy of finding unity in any field of enquiry and when thought in terms of nature of God, it has a special name: pantheism?
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Hello A-Man, I am well and happy too. I hope the same for you

Good question, it is slightly like a riddle because we must assume that monism exists before pantheism to say that theistic-monism is pantheism. From my understanding monism is fairly recent i.e. 17-18th century, however Pantheism is derived from the Greek philosophers (I am not sure if they used -isms). So monism came later and so I feel monism is just categorising ideas regardless of religion.

What I find interesting is why it wasn't needed earlier? Perhaps because the sensation of the Oneness of God already preceeded any need to limit categorising to being irreligious? Removing religion from thought.

What do you think?

 

[A-ManESL]

Hello A-Man, I am well and happy too. I hope the same for you

Good question, it is slightly like a riddle because we must assume that monism exists before pantheism to say that theistic-monism is pantheism. From my understanding monism is fairly recent i.e. 17-18th century, however Pantheism is derived from the Greek philosophers (I am not sure if they used -isms). So monism came later and so I feel monism is just categorising ideas regardless of religion.

What I find interesting is why it wasn't needed earlier? Perhaps because the sensation of the Oneness of God already preceeded any need to limit categorising to being irreligious? Removing religion from thought.

What do you think?

Hmmm.... The doctrine of pantheism assumes that God is eveything. All thoughts, ideas, actions, concepts, objects, are it. (Like the Brahman in Hinduism simply is everything.) The idea of seeking unity in a given field, is also an idea and so is it. Hence monism being a philosophy is also it.

Then some 17th 18th C people decided to give a name to this philosphy (which was equal to God, by the way ) and called it monism.

Did that make sense or I am just rambling...lol

Regards

 

[Onkara]

haha, your post was crystal clear, given that we are in a topic which can be as unclear as mud

You say something quite profound when you say "All thoughts, ideas, actions, concepts, objects, are it". I also agree, monism is it, or in it. If everything is IT, then we can ask a more personal question - can we know IT?

 

[A-ManESL]

haha, your post was crystal clear, given that we are in a topic which can be as unclear as mud

You say something quite profound when you say "All thoughts, ideas, actions, concepts, objects, are it". I also agree, monism is it, or in it. If everything is IT, then we can ask a more personal question - can we know IT?

...isnt the process of knowing it also IT, because any process is also IT...

Unfortunately by now I have no idea what I mean by the above sentence!

(Humming) Ring around the roses

Regards.