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What is Love?

rrobs

Well-Known Member
Yup. Men spoke from God. Exactly. The prophets, Jesus Christ, and his apostles. Men of religion.
Very good. There is one little detail I will point out though. Peter calls "men of God" what you call "men of religion."

God purified every word in the scriptures 7 times.

Ps 12:6,

The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
I would think that God was perfectly accurate in saying "men of God" to Peter. I'm sure God thought through what He wanted to say. He certainly has the word "religion" in His vocabulary, so if He meant for it to say, "men of religion," He would have been perfectly capable of doing so.

I know it might seem like nitpicking, but I think we should all use the same words God uses. Failure to do that is a huge part of the reason that we have some 40,000 different denominations.

For what it's worth, I've always thought of religion as man's attempt at explaining God. Not much different than the Model-T trying to explain Henry Ford. The scriptures, on the other hand, are God explaining Himself to us.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Very good. There is one little detail I will point out though. Peter calls "men of God" what you call "men of religion."

God purified every word in the scriptures 7 times.

Ps 12:6,

The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
I would think that God was perfectly accurate in saying "men of God" to Peter. I'm sure God thought through what He wanted to say. He certainly has the word "religion" in His vocabulary, so if He meant for it to say, "men of religion," He would have been perfectly capable of doing so.

I know it might seem like nitpicking, but I think we should all use the same words God uses. Failure to do that is a huge part of the reason that we have some 40,000 different denominations.

For what it's worth, I've always thought of religion as man's attempt at explaining God. Not much different than the Model-T trying to explain Henry Ford. The scriptures, on the other hand, are God explaining Himself to us.
(James 1:27) The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.

James 1:27
New International Version
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
New Living Translation
Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you.

English Standard Version
Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Berean Study Bible
Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Berean Literal Bible
Pure and undefiled religion before the God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their tribulation; to keep oneself unstained from the world.

New American Standard Bible
Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

New King James Version
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

King James Bible
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Christian Standard Bible
Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Contemporary English Version
Religion that pleases God the Father must be pure and spotless. You must help needy orphans and widows and not let this world make you evil.

Good News Translation
What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this: to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

International Standard Version
A religion that is pure and stainless according to God the Father is this: to take care of orphans and widows who are suffering, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

NET Bible
Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

New Heart English Bible
Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

A Faithful Version
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their afflictions, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For pure and holy ministry before God The Father is this: to take care of orphans and widows in their affliction, and for a man to keep his soul without defilement from the world.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Pure, unstained religion, according to God our Father, is to take care of orphans and widows when they suffer and to remain uncorrupted by this world.

New American Standard 1977
This is pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father, to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

King James 2000 Bible
Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

American King James Version
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

American Standard Version
Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.

Darby Bible Translation
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

English Revised Version
Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Webster's Bible Translation
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Weymouth New Testament
The religious service which is pure and stainless in the sight of our God and Father is to visit fatherless children and widowed women in their time of trouble, and to keep one's own self unspotted from the world.

World English Bible
Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Young's Literal Translation
religion pure and undefiled with the God and Father is this, to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation -- unspotted to keep himself from the world.

Religion = Form of worship.
When God created the first human couple in the garden, there was no Religion.
There was only pure worship - the way to worship God

After Adam sinned, religion was born - a form of worship.
After the attempt at building the tower of Babel, many forms of worship were born...
Until this day, they continue growing.

The form of worship God accepts however, is the one he personally 'formed', by bringing together those whose heart is inclined toward him. (Micah 4:1, 2; John 6:44)
So that would mean God accepts the worship we offer to him - provided it is rendered according to his terms, which he outlines, through his inspired writings, even though he allows for its limitations.
It's pure to him, although not perfect.

Pure worship will be restored in the perfect state, when his sovereignty is vindicated - when religion comes to an end.
This is what's evident to me.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Research about a condition that is expressed by a human in their natural life, as a concept of self, consciousness and spirit, only belongs to the self consciousness and spirit.

Yet so many humans quoted God is love.

So if you tell a thesis story, then the whole thesis is just strings of lots and lots of thoughts, put together to tell a story...that owns a summation.

The bible was not written to read as if it is a story, it was a scientific researched summation, what you all seem to overlook.

To reason the information how it was stated as a researched summation of a male/scientific agreement, against self life in its scientific caused artificial attacks.

For life in its highest natural form, is life as it is meant to be lived. Common sense actually.

So when a document writes about the conditions of being loved and supported in a natural history of creative evolution....then the theme quotes, the highest states supported a loved and loving life.

Common sense.

Then when you quote a scientific summation to inform self that when you cause irradiation spirit gases to fall out of the heavens, then that form of God surely does not love you, nor does it support a loving life mind or human ability to be their highest and best to their natural ability.

Common sense.

God surely is not loving in that condition of the human life.

Self human conscious storyteller expressive reasoner therefore says, I am a spiritual being. My own highest natural purpose is self owned, self applied, and it is not chosen. It is natural and innate to be loving. It is a part of our Nature.

Looks at animals and quotes, yes is surely proven, a part of our Nature. For you cannot coerce an animal by the use of your words to believe what you write or story tell as that proof.

So when science wanted to pretend that God is love, in science, their machine already took the highest state of God, minerals as the Creator past...for all science reactive human theories/ownership and melted it.

To get a metal machine/part.

Now as he owned buildings that are transmitters, by design, they transmitted signals to relate to the ability for a machination conversion to be enacted to God fusion in the past, gold as a melt product. They quote that they owned the knowledge of the Philosophers stone. To take the highest God mass, melt it and then own a conversion to gain gold. Hence they were playing around with radio wave/radiation atmospheric signals.

Why they made God the highest body fused as the origin Creator body, the planet melt and form sin holes...as sin x K hole....meaning machine held constants.

For in natural form, God O the planet does not form sink holes naturally. Yet wait a minute, the planet is natural and so natural does form sink holes.

Yet if you applied a science historic reason, science caused that outcome their own selves...and natural changed...as natural can change, does change and natural is first and origin.

Therefore when humans are no longer loving, it is because their first, their origins, self and human spiritual were converted consciousness. The truth about is God love, only when you do not change natural God the planet history.

For it only supported the highest human self, spiritual loving and natural.
 
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