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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Unveiled Artist, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    I know what a god is: object/person/idea of worship, nature, consciousness, jesus christ, mythological beings, creator, cosmos, universe, and so forth. However you name it.

    I know what the definition says
    I ask because I don't understand and want to hear others opinions, not because I haven't searched for myself.

    What is a deity (or being)?​
     
  2. bobhikes

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    First off every person is going to have there own understanding. So if debating you need to get a feel of how the person understands it or give your own definition.

    For me
    God is the supreme being the top or master of the domain. For example Venus was the God of love, Mars the God of war, The Abraham God is master of all
    Deity is a supreme being, one of a group of masters in a domain. The fates were deities. The Greek and Roman gods as a whole ruled everything but as individuals where deities.
    Being is an individual, any human or animal that understands individuality.
     
  3. Unveiled Artist

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    Is the supreme being a spirit?
     
  4. bobhikes

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    For me a spirit isn't the supreme being but it could be there is no hard rule I just identified as the unique master of the domain.
     
  5. Unveiled Artist

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    What does that mean "master" and "being"? Some people use cosmos and consciousness. If master and being are, quote on quote, "tangible" deities or beings, what is the nature of them?
     
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    Master would mean there is no way to appeal to a higher authority.
    Being is a thing that can understand its individuality. I previously said human or animal but if a plant or conscious or cosmos understands its individuality it is a being.

    For me.

    I think of God as the cosmos being a living entity and earth is similar to the left toe.
     
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    It's all relative.

    A "deity" is a consciousness which exists in place of greater power and/or blissful circumstances than a lesser consciousness.

    E.g. Humans are deities in comparison to many animals, for example.
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I took deity as the classification of a group of supernatural beings in folklore.
     
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    God is unlike everything that we imagine
    Can u imagine universe???
    How can u imagine his creator??
    A limited existence will never reach an unlimited existence
    That's why everything u imagine about God is an illusion

    It's interesting that God isn't matter or substance so how can we have notion of him???

    الشورى
    فَاطِرُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ جَعَلَ لَكُم مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَزْوَاجًا وَمِنَ الْأَنْعَامِ أَزْوَاجًا يَذْرَؤُكُمْ فِيهِ لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْبَصِيرُ
    [He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing. (11)
     
  10. LuisDantas

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    Whatever one feels like worshipping.

    Often, but not necessarily always, it will be in some sense a transcendental, supernatural entity. Someone whose nature is inherently separate from our own.

    Or, on a less questionable ground, a deity may be some entity that symbolizes ideas and virtues for purposes of inspiration and worship.

    There are those who think it makes much of a difference if a deity exists in a literal sense. I am not among those.
     
  11. Unveiled Artist

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    That actually confuses me. What is the higher authority? Being is something that can understand itself?
     
  12. Unveiled Artist

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    Hmm.
    I understand that as symbolism though that begs the question of what is an entity. Why not just say symbols or the ideas and virtues themselves? Unless it's a collective term for whatever ideas and virtues that person defines an entity as.

    How can a deity be made literal?

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    I know. You just posted this 3 mins ago.
     
  13. Unveiled Artist

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    Not god. Not creator.

    What is a deity?
     
  14. LuisDantas

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    Deities are defined for the convenience of the believer, of course.

    As I understand it, by expecting / finding it to have an independent existence, one that does not depend on the doctrine that defines it.

    An odd and perhaps unhealthy thing to expect of a deity, IMO. But somehow also one that is frequently perceived as Very Important.
     
  15. Unveiled Artist

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    Some people see deities as part of reality. So the supernatural beings (however defined?) are real life beings. That begs the question what is a being? Unless folklore is part of real life rather than stories of morals rather than their literal content.
     
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    Odd that a deity would be expected to exist without the dependence on doctrine? (I don't quite understand what you said)
     
  17. Unveiled Artist

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    This went over my head. I'm not familiar with consciousness.
     
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    There are people who insist that their deities are "real" and should be acknowledged as such.

    Every time I hear that I wonder why that would be so.

    A deity is supposed to be inspiring, not "real". I'm not sure it even makes sense to say that a deity is real.
     
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    If a deity is ideas etc, then I agree, it doesn't make sense. I guess I can think of it as my being a human being. Human beings have tangible characteristics. However, if we asked what Jane is, we wouldn't say "she is love" or Bob is evil. We'd say they are human being or people. We can define human beings even if love and evil did not exist.

    However, with a deity seen as literal, I would kind of expect the same thing. If made literal there would have to be some characteristics that define the deity without depending on attributes such as love and evil that any person can attribute to anything and anyone supernatural or not.
     
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    I don't see why a transcendental being would even want, let alone need, a literal existence.
     
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