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What if God were one of us?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Muffled, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. Penumbra

    Penumbra Veteran Member
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    Yes, I remember it was resolved for the viewers when the young man version of god visited her. It was a difficult story arc after things had gone fairly smoothly for a while (during the transition from season 1 to 2, I think). Eventually they got into the story arc where they introduced a villain character but didn't get much play with it until it was cancelled.

    The point of bringing it up, was that it's an example of having a really rational reason to believe something and yet still having doubts and issues based on the question of whether the experiences themselves even truly happened externally or not.
     
  2. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    Krishna spoke from a Hindu perspective. This is what I would expect from a person trying to represent a religion's concept of God.

    Jesus on the other hand talked about things outside His religion's perspective. Inany case one would expect God to be consistent but their is a distinct dichotomy between what God says in the Bible and what Hinduism says. (I can't say I ever read a direct quote by God in the Vedas)
     
  3. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I suppose this is helpful. From one person it could be attributed to someone being zany but when two diverse people give the exact same message it becomes more believable.

    Mt 18:16 But if he hear thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may be established.

    John 5:31 ΒΆ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
    32 It is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
     
  4. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I recognize the God in me but I do not recognize the god in you. How do you verify that he is the one true God?

    This is basically my wife's assertion. I have never had God prove Himself in me to anyone. He has proven Himself to me.
     
  5. Breathe

    Breathe Hostis humani generis

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    Because it's the same God for me as it is for you. ;)

    There's a difference between a human saying it, and experiencing Godliness, in my opinion.
     
  6. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I doubt that Jesus was crucified for being God but for saying that He was. They didn't seriously believe that He was. However anyone espousing beliefs contrary to established orthodoxy has been viewed as dangerous and taken seriously. Arius (Arian heresy) was taken seriously.
     
  7. Tbone

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    Well, He did it once so you would have to compare what He did and said then to what He would be doing and saying now.
    After all God changes not.
     
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    Depending on how they phrased it I would either say "congratulations you've figured it out" or "Get thee to a psychiatrist, quickly"
     
  9. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    We'd have Jesus.
     
  10. uu_sage

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    Since God is spirit and transcends naming or form, I don't think most people would be able to grasp the mystery of God nor could they handle the experience of God first hand because encountering God first hand would likely challenge people's narrow images or beliefs about God.
     
  11. Muffled

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    No doubt Joan's Catholic parents were challenged but more from the fact that they had wandered from their faith. Catholicism is replete with personal appearances although Mary seems most active.
     
  12. Mestemia

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    it would be pretty easy to figure out amongst us was god.
    just look for the one who cannot stop throwing up.
     
  13. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    Actually God manages to hold his stomach pretty well but has been known to get quite angry with those who purposely do evil. Most of us wouldn't encounter either reaction from Him.

    We can use Jesus as an example or me. I don't throw up when people are shot in a theatre and in fact do not become angry but it does make me sad that the devil has so much influence over people's lives.
     
  14. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    I didn't realize you were God.
     
  15. Muffled

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    It is a simple matter of understanding Christianity.

    Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
    18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
    19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
     
  16. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    So much for humility, huh?
     
  17. Muffled

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    I call a spade a spade. Does that appear to be a lack of himility to you? Why?
     
  18. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    If it's you calling it so, then yes. God on the other hand...
     
  19. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    If we were sure, we'd serve God out of obligation, greed, fear. This way, we serve God out of love.
     
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    There is god and there is God. There is the son and there is the Father. The son of man will come at a time you least expect. Could be he is here and he does not know you.
     
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