What happened to Judaism?

[Tumah]

רֶכֶב * rekeb - Chariot
רָכַב * rakab - Mount
רְכוּב * rĕkuwb - Chariot
רָקִיעַ * Raqiya - Firmament

So what exactly is a firmament ?

Ezekiel 6:11
stamp ( Raqa) with thy foot ( Regel )

The word רקיע raqiʕa comes from the root רקע rqʕ which means to flatten, spread out. Like how you spread out a table cloth. The firmament is spread out over the earth. "Raqaʕ b'ragl'kha" means "flatten out with your foot". The image of someone stomping something until its flat, should be pretty easy.

Exodus 24:10
And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet ( Regel )
as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone,

Ezekiel 1:26
And above the Chariot that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone:

No, over the heads of the type of angel called ḥayah "living creature" there was a firmament (Eze. 1:22). On top of the firmament that was over the heads of the living creatures was a throne. That's what it says.

Ezekiel 10:2
And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels underneath the cherub

Yes?

The word 'Chariot ' from Latin CARRVS in Hebrew that is כְּרוּב ( ker·üv )
which is 'Cherub

No, the word Carrus comes from the PIE *krsos which itself comes from the word *kers meaning "to run". Kruv does not mean "to run", it means "cherub". The Talmud presents the etymological origin of the Aramaic k'ravya 'like a child' as they are believed to have child-like faces. Wikipedia offers other origins for the word.

τρόχῳ ( Troxw ) means 'Wheel in Greek, it's Hebrew cognate is Rek·üv(רְכוּב) 'Chariot and רָקִיעַ * Raqiya ( Firmament ) and these words gave us Trek , Track and Tractor.

Rekhev and raqiʕa do not share roots (rkv and rqʕ respectively). They are not related, nor are they interchangeable.
τρόχῳ comes from the Indo-European dregh - to run
רכב reχev comes from the root rkv - to ride
רקיע raqiʕa comes from the root rqʕ - to spread out and flatten

Why do Original synagogues have Zodiacs with the Charioteer in the Midst.

There is no such thing as an "original" synagogue. They're all original.

Two early synagogues had these mosaics. They obviously took the design from their Persian and Greek counterparts. Perhaps they didn't care to follow Torah Law. We know nothing about them. But we do know that there were different groups of Jews, including Hellenized Jews.

Just because you find mosaics of a man on a chariot, doesn't mean that you're supposed to change all the words in the Tanach that do not conform to those images. You first need to prove that the people who made those mosaics intended to follow what it says in the Tanach, rather than import foreign designs they were familiar with.

 

[Magus]

The word 'Chariot ' from Latin CARRVS in Hebrew that is כְּרוּב ( ker·üv ) , the Hebrew word for Chariot is 'רְכוּב (Rek·üv ) P and K interchange between Hebrew and Greek, thus another Hebrew word for Chariot is אַפִּרְיוֹן ( Aprion ) , from the Greek πορεῖον ( Poreion) . from which we get words like 'Ferry. Port, Portable and Sport.

τρόχῳ ( Troxw ) means 'Wheel that would be the cognate of Rek·üv(רְכוּב) these words gave us Tractor, Train, Trek and Track.

The word Kuros means Sun , for it is cognate with ker·üv (כְּרוּב) as well as κυρίου > 'Ker uv (power of the sun ) , R interchanges with L and so Kur > Kul thus חַיִל ( Khul) (power) but also חוּל (Khul) meaning dancing, whirl , but also 'גַּלְגַּל' (Gal gal) meaning Wheel, and also the word wheel itself, 'Kwel ' .

Kvr > Gvr , thus גֶּבֶר ' Geber ' power ' thus Gabriel (גַּבְרִיאֵל) , which in Greek is ' κυρ ἡλίου ' ( 'power of the sun ) ' Kur > Her and H > K and thus Kur Kle > Herakles or Hercules ( Power of the sun ) . ' Hercules = Gabriel ' .

K interchanges with P and so Khul > Phul > ' Apollon ' ( אַפִּרְיוֹן) Kh > H thus Khul(חוּל) >ἡλίου ( Hliou ) ' The Sun Kh interchanges with Sh, thus Khul(חוּל) > Sol 'The Sun '.
ἥλιον > עֶלְיוֹן ' The Most High' , with the prefix definite article , that is ὁ̂ ἡλίου > אל עליון > Al-Ilah > Allah الله

Dialect - Wikipedia

 

[Magus]

This was minted around Jerusalem in the 4th Century BCE

Is this Helios or is that Elijah ?

Psalms 104
Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.
My meditation (שִׂיחַ) of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the Chariot / κυρίῳ

 

[BilliardsBall]

The oldest depiction of יְהֹוָה, he is riding a Chariot , with a large Wheel.

This was minted around Jerusalem in the 4th Century BCE

Now forward 800 years, to the 4th century CE Jewish Synagogue

If you look closely in the midst, you will see the Chariot and the Wheels, the Zodiac itself is in the shape of a Wheel, so from 4th century BCE to 4th century CE, the iconography was preserved, so what happened too this Judaism?

You won't find colourful Zodiacs and iconography in any Jewish synagogue today, they are no different
to boring dull dark Churches.

This is what they have become, no Ancient people were dressed like that, what are they preserving?, they
have lost there entire identity.

Why do you assume the Jewish people minted those coins and engraved that iconography, rather than their oppressors?

We Jews have done well for millennia considering the actions and statements of some!

 

[metis]

Two early synagogues had these mosaics. They obviously took the design from their Persian and Greek counterparts. Perhaps they didn't care to follow Torah Law.

And there is one of a lion in front of the Knesset, if my memory is correct.

Perhaps they didn't care to follow Torah Law. We know nothing about them. But we do know that there were different groups of Jews, including Hellenized Jews.

It begs the question as to whether mosaics, even including animals or people, were always considered "graven images", or whether all groups were on-board?

We need to remember that most groups didn't buy into the "Oral Law", deciding themselves to have their own "Oral Traditions".

 

[Tumah]

And there is one of a lion in front of the Knesset, if my memory is correct.

I'm not really sure why that should be a problem.

It begs the question as to whether mosaics, even including animals or people, were always considered "graven images", or whether all groups were on-board?

We need to remember that most groups didn't buy into the "Oral Law", deciding themselves to have their own "Oral Traditions".

That's not the question. The question is why there would be a depiction of a Greek or Roman god depicted in the center of a synagogue mosaic of the constellations.

 

[metis]

I'm not really sure why that should be a problem.

Well, I think it could be a problem to those who may feel that such a depiction is either a graven image or too close to possibly being one. Remember, some believe that even a photograph may cross that line.

That's not the question. The question is why there would be a depiction of a Greek or Roman god depicted in the center of a synagogue mosaic of the constellations.

But is it a certainty that this is what it actually is? Maybe a depiction of Elijah instead? At least that's what comes to mind.

 

[Magus]

If one reads the Septuagint and find Elijah , the name is spelt Ηλιου , which is Helios and
why do people keep forgetting about the Phoenicians , they were merchants and they sailed all over the Mediterraneans.

In Ancient Italy for example, they were a people known as 'Estrucans , the alphabet that
they use is the Phoenician alphabet and the Latin-Greek Alphabet are also based on the same alphabet.

Jews are in denial here, they literally believe Phoenicians never existed and they contradict themselves by writing in the English alphabet

What is the supreme Roman God ? It's IOVE and what's his name in Greek?
it is ZEUS and what's his name is Phoenician? it is IEVE ( Jehovah ) , they are linguistically the same name, thus not a specific God to a specific people, but everyone as there own dialects so they pronounced it differently.

why there would be a depiction of a Greek or Roman god

It is a depiction Sol (Latin) , Helios (Greek) and Elijah (Phoenician) , it does not matter.

 

[blü 2]

You're antisemitism is showing through.

Now now. If there's one way of putting reasonable people off, it's using that as a cheap bleat.

 

[Tumah]

Now now. If there's one way of putting reasonable people off, it's using that as a cheap bleat.

I don't think that's those people are relevant here.