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What Happened At Jesus' Tomb?

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Who goes to the tomb and what happened afterwards?

Matthew's account
After the Sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. And suddenly there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. 4 For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead, and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ This is my message for you.” 8 So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”

Mark's account
When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. 2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb. 2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb. 3 They had been saying to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?” 4 When they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had already been rolled back. 5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man, dressed in a white robe, sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed. 6 But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed; you are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Look, there is the place they laid him. 7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him, just as he told you.” 8 So they went out and fled from the tomb, for terror and amazement had seized them; and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.

Luke's account
But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, taking the spices that they had prepared. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they went in, they did not find the body 4 While they were perplexed about this, suddenly two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them. 5 The women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen. 6 Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, 7 that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinners, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again.” 8 Then they remembered his words, 9 and returning from the tomb, they told all this to the eleven and to all the rest. 10 Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles.

John's account
Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. 2 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” Then Peter and the other disciple set out and went toward the tomb. 4 The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent down to look in and saw the linen wrappings lying there, but he did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen wrappings lying there, 7 and the cloth that had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen wrappings but rolled up in a place by itself. 8 Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; 9 for as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. 10 Then the disciples returned to their homes.


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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Gets more embellished with each retelling, these people had an agenda, after all.
 
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Seems like the same story told by different people.

But modern critics of religion see it as a big deal as if the compilers didn't notice it and it is thus a 'mistake'.

I don't know the answer, but I'd like to know why the compilers saw no problem in the different narratives and what it means for how they viewed scripture.

Anyone?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The compilers and scribes weren't so literal or analytic as today's zealots. The Bible's full of contradictions that could have been edited out if anyone had taken the time.

Clergymen spend years in seminary learning complex explanations for these contradictions. Even on a forum like this I see apologists pouncing on these contradictions every time one's brought up.
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
I don't see the issue.

Remember that decades had passed before the Gospels were put to paper, therefore not only are minor discrepancies in the details not a problem they would be if anything expected. If the accounts agreed in every detail, people would just as quickly claim that they were written in collusion.

The story is clear enough, none of the accounts contradict any of the central claims of Christianity. Also note, the authority of the Church to teach doctrine isn't vested in the Scripture, but in the succession of the bishops. The idea that the Scriptures are the be-all-end-all source for Christian legitimacy and teaching is only about five-hundred years old.

You've also got to read the texts not only as a whole, but also as informed by Sacred Tradition. Protestantism's worst move was isolating Scripture from that context.
 
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DanielR

Active Member
Oh another, my religion (which I am not even a part of) is superior than yours thread, what a surprise ...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh another, my religion (which I am not even a part of) is superior than yours thread, what a surprise ...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
It's nothing of the sort. It's a debate. Where have I mentioned anything about my faith? Where have I said it's better than Christianity? I'm just pointing out differences in the Gospel accounts. If that offends you then don't bother commenting on the thread.
 

DanielR

Active Member
It's nothing of the sort. It's a debate. Where have I mentioned anything about my faith? Where have I said it's better than Christianity? I'm just pointing out differences in the Gospel accounts. If that offends you then don't bother commenting on the thread.

yes, I think I'll use the ignore function from now on. I have very think skin right now, lol!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The compilers and scribes weren't so literal or analytic as today's zealots.
Exactly, as literalistic interpretations within Christianity pretty much just became popular in the 19th century under the guise of "fundamentalism".
 
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