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Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by Mukhtar Farid, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. Mukhtar Farid

    Mukhtar Farid Member

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    Peace be upon you members
    First of all I am not perfect and am a sinner but I am here to let you know that through my pondering God revealed to me what matters.No I did not hear his voice or see a dream rather I pondered logically and am responding to his call
    This world is filled with problems because the lack of love towards humans,animals,insects,mother earth.The heart of it is loving everything unconditionally which seems to be lacking nowadays.So God revealed through my ponderings that
    we need to sanctify ourselves by
    1.Loving all of creation unconditionally
    2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back
    3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice
    4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.
    5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others
    6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

    I am starting my journey today towards this sanctification, are you with me or not?In any case if you are not thats fine-the creator is cool with that . ;)
     
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    Shadow Wolf Certified People sTabber

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    Is it not better to save our love for those we cherish and the things we enjoy while respecting the rest?
    Why should we forgive someone who has no remorse and makes no efforts to make amends?
    Is this "not justice" just for you or would you help seek justice over a wrong?
    Why?
    Why? And why repent to a creator? Why not make amends among those we wrong?
    Why?
     
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    syo Well-Known Member

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    Love again??? Why is it all people talk about love???
     
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    Aštra’el Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth

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    If only I could… but my purpose and passion takes me down a different path.

    You have connected to God, and it has inspired goodness in your heart. I respect that, and if this journey is one your heart honestly and genuinely cries out for, then I say go for it.
     
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    Thank you for choosing the light.
     
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    Well I was going to post something here, but after this post I'd be wasting my time.
    Says it all
     
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    Perfect.

    I came to this conclusion too
    So, I am totally with you

    Vegetarian is a must

    And indeed, God won't punish you
    Karma takes care of this stuff
    (e.g.: step on a banana peel, and you fall)
     
  8. Eli G

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    Human beings do not have to speculate about what God expects of us, His creation.

    When he made a pact with the Israelites, he gave them very precise laws, which although today are not applicable to Christians, they tell us what pleases God and what he will never accept that humans practice.

    Jesus was asked about the most important commandment of the Law:

    Matt. 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

    Anything that shows disrespect for Jehovah God or carelessness in dealings with others is unacceptable from the standpoint of our Creator. Obviously, this is a simple and easy to understand generalization.

    In reality, achieving reconciliation with our Creator as part of his universal family required the payment of a very high price: the human life of Jesus, and only by recognizing and appealing to that legal resource can we consider the possibility of reconciliation.
     
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  9. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Can't do that there are some people that don't deserve love

    I guess you have never been in proximity of a terrorist bomb and never been raped

    Love is earned, it isn't given away freely. Compassion for pedophiles, terrorists etc? No thanks. The only mercy some people deserve is the mercy of facing justice

    Human vices tend to be subjective. You vices are not mine and mine are not yours

    Which creator? Count the different creator gods that have been worshiped throughout recorded history and you won't up with close to 4000 gods. I still haven't worked out how that could work

    See 5
     
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    Because of the Beatles song of course!
    :)
     
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    When people don't even know who the Creator really is or what kind of personality and character he has as a real being, all speculation is pointless.

    There are pagan gods who protect drunks, prostitutes, thieves, warriors, killers, etc. So the creator of men in this variety of gods, could be any of them, and serving those gods would require very different requirements.

    Obviously Jehovah God, the God who called Abraham and whom Jesus Christ regarded as his own Father, is a God who has very different requirements from those who wish to serve Him and have His approval.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Alhamulillah, I have no God. I do what my bringing up and education advises me. No conflicts, no doubts.
     
  13. Mukhtar Farid

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    don’t get me wrong jesus was amazing person but the whole died for our sins make no sense.we are all accountable for our sins I don’t believe he died for it rather he died to show how much he loved all of creation including the Roman’s and the rabbis -goes back to my point 1 of what God expects of us unconditional love towards all of creation.
     
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    Also each one of us do what has been decreed for us by the almighty. If I were in the shoes of the criminal I would definitely do the same crime he did whereas if a criminal was in my shoes and I am good person he would be also a good person. Hell is an illusion as is the judgement day. God will snap his fingers,erase trauma of sufferers,erase the concept of evil and everyone will go to heaven. So bottom line is as much you love a cat and dog or some cute pet you must love even the snake,scorpion or spider too-they are all creations of my God who is also your God.
     
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    What you do is upto you but following these 4 guidelines will improve your life.the principles of
    1.Unconditional Love for all of creation
    2.immense mercy and compassion towards all of creation
    3.abstinence from vices of all kinds
    4.repentance to the creator for self and all of creation
    5.gratefulness to the creator for self and all of creation
    Evidently I failed today-ended up eating too much instead of as much as needed.Nevermind will try tomorrow again.
     
  16. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Please don't presume what will improve other people's lives.

    So you love pedophiles, rapists, murderers etc? Ok, sorry but living such heinous offences to humanity is not going to improve anything, but may encourage more such violence.


    See above

    Why, so longas no one is hurt what is wrong with a little vice on occasion?

    As i said, which one?

    See above

    Whatever makes you happy
     
  17. Mukhtar Farid

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    It did not make me happy because there are people on the world struggling to get their regular meal.
     
  18. ChristineM

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    No it is not "the" truth but it may be your truth

    I guess you have never been injured by a terrorist bomb, or been raped or tried to reason with a psychopath.

    And as i said, there are at least different 4200 god ideas worshipped by humans, and around 3800 of them were creator gods.
     
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    peace be upon you sister,
    the truth is love conquers all-hence unconditional love.

    a psychopath cannot defeat a benevolent psychopath which is what I intend to do. So at hi point I have to forgive. That’s what Jesus did at torture and crucifixion death point he said father forgive them they know not what they do

    Yes but In my opinion and as you said my truth which may be applicable for all of you depending on what you choose through free will there is only one God the God who created the ever expanding universe. Mathematical equivalent of this god is 1/0 we can’t even comprehend his form.

    In the case of rape ,I have been abused as a child-but I still forgive this person even though he took advantage of naiveness.
    Also couple of months back I had a conflict with a coworker they ended up putting me prison for a day and had me take off all my clothes. But the dutiful response is to forgive them and so I did though it took effort. When people think along lines of unconditional love then the problem of being an active shooter dissolves away.

    anyway there is no compulsion in what I saying if you ponder you may find the same answer or an answer applicable to your understanding

    also in the afterlife the concept of hell is an illusion that was never God’s plan.heaven was.

    Also today I lost my job again due to my slowness and laziness...but I am not blaming anyone.When I showed up for the job I was beggar and I left as a beggar. :)

    peace be upon you,
    Peace,
    Amin/Amen
     
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    Not applicable to non believers, not applicable to those believers who don't believe in your god.

    You can forgive your abuser? That is something i can never do. We obviously have different outlooks.

    Prison for an work conflict? Wow, that's some conflict.

    My understanding is there is no god or anything to do with supernatural woo. Other people have other ideas, that's up to them
     
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