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Featured What does the Bible say about the origins of the Earth in relation to what science say?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SA Huguenot, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. URAVIP2ME

    URAVIP2ME Veteran Member

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    I never read that God will No longer create things, but that God is now resting from his creative works of Genesis.
    As God's 7th rest day was still in effect in the first century, it apparently is still on going now - Hebrews 4:4-11.
    Jesus knew he and his God are still working as per John 5:17 just Not as in new material creation.
     
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    There is a lot of history that shows that all gods are merely the creation of man's imaginings.

    Do you think Atlas is something other than the creation of man's imaginings?
    Do you think Allah is something other than the creation of man's imaginings?
    Do you think Shiva is something other than the creation of man's imaginings?
     
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    Nothing you wrote affects Ussher's calculations.
     
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    Your Eternal, Omnipotent God did nothing for 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999%+ of his existence. Then He worked for six days. For the past 6000 years, He has been resting.

    Really a go-getter. Rip van Winkle was more productive. Heck, your average ant is more productive.
     
  5. URAVIP2ME

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    Resting from more 'creative works', but still working as Jesus said at John 5:17 and John 6:28-29
    Now is the time to accomplish 'spiritual works' - Matthew 28:18-20..
    Working at overseeing the now international accomplishment of Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 that the good news message about God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 is now at its final global phase.
    At the 'final world-wide phase' because God's people are hard worker ants.
     
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    A statement without any credibility!:rolleyes:
     
  7. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    Shacks mate!
    Dont you even know that God the Creator created Time and Space as well as matter?
    In your arrogance you think God is caught up in His creation as you are.
    No...
    God did not live for billions of billions of billions of years, because we are bound to Time because of the Sun and Earth in relation to each other!
    God created the Sun and Earth to be signs of Tine for us. it is just by chance that we age accordingly that we perceive time as our ageing.
    Before the Universe was created, there was no time.
    Actually, the Bible say before the Sun and Earth was created, time did not exist.
    Science also claim the same with the fact that they determine the Universe to be at least 12.5 billion years old, and the Solar system only 5.5 billion years.
    So, how do they measure Time for 7 billion years with the absence of the Sun?

    Furthermore, the Universe and Earth are not how God created it originally, for Paul even say all creation moans under the entrance of sin.
    We know from the Bible that Adam was created immortal, but that sin entered creation and he started to age and eventually he died.

    I am of opinion that the life hereafter is without time and space as we know it.
    We will be a force in the presence of God away from age, health, death, time, space etc.
    can I explain it.
    No, only by what the Biblical descriptions tell me, but it must be great to live without any naturalistic laws such as Gravity, space, etc.
     
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    JJ50 Well-Known Member

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    Your belief NOT a fact.
     
  9. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    wow! realy?
    Did you see the Evolution Myth was refuted by Behe in his Darwin's black box?
    I loved his scientific facts!
    Especially since Dawkins refuses to debate him on evolution.
     
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    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    Your belief that God is submitted under natural laws, not fact.
     
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    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    And I ask you again:
    "Why do you bite lions?"
     
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    Hey Audie Poof.
    Physics, especially Stephen hawkins claim that about 15 to 18 billion years ago the Universe came into existance by...
    POOF!
     
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    My belief is that the god character in the Bible is a less than credible entity who is more than likely the creation of its authors.
     
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    I would like to ask you only one question.
    Please, if you can, tell the truth.
    Have you ever read the Bible?
    If you didnt, no problem.
    I just can not figure out why you are saying everything you do, whilst I read it and find the opposite.
     
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    Thanks for affirming my point that we cannot take the given generations and come up with a true age for the Flood. Appreciate you!
     
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    Well, perhaps you are right!

    Please name all the outstanding world leaders, empires and accomplishments (cities, industries, philosophies) you know about that are extant prior to 4000 BC. As a gedanken, I ask you to do so now from memory (no Google cheating):

    1)
    2)
    3)
     
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    Blinded by the light.
     
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    I'm caught up in His creation? Is that what you think. How silly. Didn't you see that I'm an atheist?

    What arrogance? I'm just pointing out "facts" as believed by many:
    God is eternal - He has always existed
    God created everything in six days.

    It's only when you have to stop and think about it that you, momentarily at least, see how ludicrous it is.


    But you do insist that God has always existed. Regardless of when He created the universe and time, He existed before that forever and forever. During that timeless period of forever, He did nothing.



    It's really unbelievably sad that you ask such a question. Perhaps you should privately ask some of the fundamentalists.

    What sin? Disobeying God by partaking of the forbidden fruit? Your God intentionally created Adam to fail. Or, do you not believe that your God is omniscient? Do you not believe that your God is omnipotent?
     
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    Wandering Monk said:
    Except if you look at the lineages of the people mentioned in Jesus' genealogy, the NT leaves people out.

    The probable reason that the NT settles on 14 generations is that the name 'David' has a numerical value of 14 in the Hebrew language. It was just more mystical story telling.​



    So, you are admitting that the Bible contains lies when it was convenient for the authors to insert them.

    Maybe the authors also lied about the Flood and the Ark.

    Maybe the authors also lied about Adam & Eve.

    Maybe the authors also lied about God creating anything in any period of time.
     
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    WOW! You are really trying to insert a major diversion here. Who cares about world leaders.

    The genealogies in the Bible are either true or they are fiction. If they are true, they can be used to pinpoint the age of The Flood.

    If they are false, then everything else in the Bible can be false also. How do you decide?
     
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