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Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Amanaki, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. Amanaki

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    What does it take to be seen as a "educated" person within religion/spiritual life?
    Can on only say that the person is educated if they have a masters degree or doctor degree in the field?
    What about those who cultivate a religious path? One who live only for the spiritual advancements? is this person "educated" enough?
     
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    Maybe besides IQ and EQ we need SQ?

    e·mo·tion·al in·tel·li·gence
    noun
    noun: emotional intelligence
    1. the capacity to be aware of, control, and express one's emotions, and to handle interpersonal relationships judiciously and empathetically.
      "emotional intelligence is the key to both personal and professional success"
     
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  3. Amanaki

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    SQ being spiritual quality? or spiritual intelligence? :)
     
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    Who cares how you are seen?
     
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  5. Amanaki

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    I think you misunderstood my question :) Seen in this context means how people understand that even a person has not got a higher education in a university does not mean the person can not be a educated spiritual person.
    Spirituality is not only being well read in scripture, it is also how one actually practice the teaching
    (the thread is not about me) just to make that clear if someone wonder.
     
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    It was just an extension from EQ, which was an extension of IQ. I see variations on intelligence, as did the guys who invented EQ. IQ measures the brain's intelligence of logic, verbal skills, numbers, ... all the stuff you're taught in school. But folks saw beyond that, as some people with poor IQ seemed to be so successful in interpersonal relaitionships, and they labelled it EQ, but really it meant emotional intelligence, and there was no way to measure it realistically, as it's more subjective.

    But neither of these two forms of intelligence covers what you're suggesting, which would be the spiritual side. So sure, spiritual intelligence, if you like. Personally, I wouldn't want to get into it much, as it's bad enough that we compare everyone on IQ, let alone how spiritual somebody is. If you think ego is a challenge for IQ smart people, than it's an even greater challenge when it comes to spirituality.
     
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    Seen by whom? :)
     
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    Example from someone who speak with a spiritual master/teacher

    I think in this day and age people look more for those who have a paper where it say PHd or Doctor then looking at what a person actually saying. Spiritual teachers do speak differently then those who have studied only text based scripture.
     
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    What is a spiritual advancement?
     
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    Education is totally unimportant. Your are known by your works. Even then, it is not important that you are known, only the works.
     
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    Gaining wisdom from within example by cultivating a religious path. The more one cultivate one self (reducing immoral action, thoughts and speech( reducing ego/self) the more we can understand the teachigs of example Buddha or Jesus (or other siritual masters who have given teaching)
    The cultivation is not done in a short time, it take a lifetime to practice, and with daily meditation or prayer.
     
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    I followed a Guru for many years. Does that count? :shrug:

    I was trained/taught by a "Master". Or one goes to school to read books? I don't think reading about spirituality provides the same kind of experience but sure you'll have some understanding/some experience.

    I'm not knocking having a Masters or Phd, there is value in that. I suppose there is knowledge and understanding. Best to have both.
     
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    okay, thanks for the clarification. One does not, however need religion to be moral.
     
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    No that is true, there are many very good moral Atheists in the world too.
     
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    (bold font added)

    SA? Same as S D. Self Delusionism.
     
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    How exactly would we define and quantify "spiritual" for this?
     
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    That i do not know in a scientific way to answer.
     
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    Spiritual quality is more important, Imo, than spiritual intelligence.

    As the Bible says, "knowledge puffs up, but love builds up". -- 1 Corinthians 8:1b
     
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    Sounds a lot like what we would expect from a cult
    that so eschews education.
     
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    Lol funny! You have no idea of the extent of my education....a desire actually fostered by my affiliation with JW's.
    Also, my experiences have led me to solid conclusions, experiences akin to Lincoln's ghost - Wikipedia
    I'm just not as gullible as you....your faith -- and it is faith -- leads you to believe "pakicetus is the forerunner of whales!"
     
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