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It tells me that Christians believe that Jesus was resurrected.No human messenger of any god has been seen resurrected after having died, except Jesus.
Doesn't that tell you anything?
Question: How does mercy help unless you are condemning??? Condemning, a petty thing mankind holds so dear, isn't God supposed to be above such petty things? Condemning is the real problem.No, that is NOT what I said. The Messengers educate mankind and prepare them for life in the spiritual world. They are not crutches, they are guides. Don't you know the 'difference' between a crutch and a guide?
"The Prophets and Messengers of God have been sent down for the sole purpose of guiding mankind to the straight Path of Truth. The purpose underlying Their revelation hath been to educate all men, that they may, at the hour of death, ascend, in the utmost purity and sanctity and with absolute detachment, to the throne of the Most High. The light which these souls radiate is responsible for the progress of the world and the advancement of its peoples.”
They did not wait. Messengers have always been sent to humanity, ever since the dawn of man.
Get over it. Nobody is valuing those things.
People are not being taught and learning to value what you refer to as 'those petty things mankind holds so dear.'
Everyone learns through living life but not everyone stops doing things like committing crimes and not everyone stops hating others.
Yes, there is a time limit on learning as we only have until the end of this earthly life.
Everyone is in need of God's mercy because we all do wrong things since nobody is perfect.
Grace is not 'special help' for special people. Everyone gets God's grace.
"Grace is a constant theme in the Bible, and it culminates in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus (John 1:17). The word translated "grace" in the New Testament comes from the Greek word charis, which means “favor, blessing, or kindness.” We can all extend grace to others; but when the word grace is used in connection with God, it takes on a more powerful meaning. Grace is God choosing to bless us rather than curse us as our sin deserves. It is His benevolence to the undeserving."
What is the grace of God? What does it mean that God is gracious? What does the grace of God mean, practically speaking?www.gotquestions.org
Stop misrepresenting me with the straw man because I am getting really tired of it.
I have no desire for payback, revenge and vengeance.
I don't want to punish and hurt those who have hurt me. Nobody has even hurt me!
Justice is not payback, revenge or vengeance, it is punishment when punishment is deserved.
There is no such thing as 'before the Messengers' since Messengers have come to humanity since the dawn of man, so nobody has ever been without a Messenger..
God's mercy comes to humanity through the Messengers, who have been sent by God from the beginning of time.
“Can one of sane mind ever seriously imagine that, in view of certain words the meaning of which he cannot comprehend, the portal of God’s infinite guidance can ever be closed in the face of men? Can he ever conceive for these Divine Luminaries, these resplendent Lights either a beginning or an end? What outpouring flood can compare with the stream of His all-embracing grace, and what blessing can excel the evidences of so great and pervasive a mercy? There can be no doubt whatever that if for one moment the tide of His mercy and grace were to be withheld from the world, it would completely perish. For this reason, from the beginning that hath no beginning the portals of Divine mercy have been flung open to the face of all created things, and the clouds of Truth will continue to the end that hath no end to rain on the soil of human capacity, reality and personality their favors and bounties. Such hath been God’s method continued from everlasting to everlasting.”
It is not all the religions with faulty MATH. You are the one with the MATH does not add up.
You have your own private version of MATH, one you invented to go with what you want to Believe about God.
You have that backwards. Your very words prove that what you say doesn't come from God.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Well, Baha'is need there to be laws from God. And they need the old laws to be renewed by every new manifestation. But if TB takes a look at the laws in the Bible, she might see things differently and agree with you... at with some of the laws. But really, Baha'is don't take the Bible literally anyway. So, why take the laws as having come literally from God? Like this one...If you say if you do not follow these laws, you won't be close to God, this is intimidation, coercing, threats and manipulation, If you say if you do not follow God's laws, you will go to Hell, this is intimidation, coercing, threats and manipulation.
Ok, say God made your mankind laws. Who enforces these laws? How?
That which you think are God's laws were created by mankind.
I find the wicked are Not eternal - Psalm 37:38; Psalm 92:7; Psalm 104:35; Psalm 145:20; Proverbs 2:21-22Pangs of Distress??? What is there to be distressed about? God has fixed it all ahead of time for we are all Eternal!!
Forearmed??? I am not going to be armed at all. WE are all God's children. It is an US. What good would armaments do me?
..... and for the figurative humble 'sheep' at Jesus' coming Glory Time the 'sheep' receive a favorable judgement. - Matt. 25:31-34,37
To me religion is Not about 'mankind's attempt' to understand God, but Bible education is about the best way to serve God..........................................................................
Religion is mankind's attempt to understand God. How are they doing? I have found no religion that really understands God at all. I think if they all came together they would at least be closer. Every religion claims a connection with God such as messengers or God's word as a holy book. In reality, God's system requires none of that. All the knowledge surrounds us all. It stares us in the face. God hides nothing. Widen your view. It is there waiting to be Discovered..............................................................
Humans have been around for at least 100,000 years. Many religions were considered true for all those humans before the Bible happens to have been written, and much has been written by more humans afterwards. What would make you suppose that in all that time, a god of all mankind would choose to step in for just a little while in all that history? And speak to such a small sample of all the humanity that lived on earth at the time the Bible was written?To me religion is Not about 'mankind's attempt' to understand God, but Bible education is about the best way to serve God.
Jesus understands and instructed as to who and how to worship at John 4:23-24 .
Religion being void of images, a spirited religion active as seeing the invisible as real.
Yes, God hides nothing, but false clergy who try to fleece the Flock of God, they hide the scriptural view. - Acts 20:29-30
We find people vote other people in office, but even a president is Not a permanent position.Even if Jesus was resurrected, so what? It makes no difference at all. It is utterly meaningless.
Answer: PatienceHumans have been around for at least 100,000 years. Many religions were considered true for all those humans before the Bible happens to have been written, and much has been written by more humans afterwards. What would make you suppose that in all that time, a god of all mankind would choose to step in for just a little while in all that history? And speak to such a small sample of all the humanity that lived on earth at the time the Bible was written?....................................
Um, okay -- hurl scripture at me. What was the date of Adam's creation?Answer: Patience
The passing of time has allowed for all of us to be born and think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
If God had already taken action then His purpose to populate Earth - Genesis 1:28 - would Not be fulfilled.
The issue of Sovereignty is at stake.
Who can govern best ?
By Adam breaking God's Law then Adam set up People Rule as governing superior to God Rule.
Only the passing of time would truly answer and settle that for all times.
Jesus stepped in time. Jesus gave us a job to do - Matthew 24:14 - tell the nations about God's kingdom ( Daniel 2:44 )
We are at the ' final phase ' of that great preaching/teaching work.
This means we are now nearing the ' final signal ' of the saying of " Peace and Security........" - 1st Thess. 5:2-3 - before Jesus takes the action as found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
Jesus and Baha'u'llah are both physically dead and they are both in heaven in a spiritual body at the Right Hand of God.
I believe the NT writers claimed that Jesus did get resurrected from the dead. If that's not true, then that's the bigger hoax ever committed. But it shouldn't be blown off with a "So what?", because if it is true, then it's the greatest miracle that's ever happened.I think it's utterly meaningless as well.
I think that it is also completely pointless for JWs to post their preferred version of Christian beliefs as if they were definitive facts, when they are not.
Jesus us just as dead as all the other Messengers of God, meaning Jesus is physically dead.We find people vote other people in office, but even a president is Not a permanent position.
Unlike worldly rulers resurrected heavenly Jesus is in lasting office because Jesus will Not die.
No, Jesus is not coming back to earth to rule.Jesus is King ( ruler) of God's governmental kingdom over Earth for a thousand years - 1st Corinthians 15:24-26.
So, the meaning is: only Jesus will make the difference in being the one who will restore paradisical conditions to Earth. - Rev. 22:2
In case you didn't know, the Baha'is don't believe Jesus came back to life. They believe those verses about the resurrection are symbolic. Which is fine, but then for a Baha'i to take some cherry-picked verses about Jesus not coming back as being literally true is a little odd.
If it's true, but it can NEVER be proven to be true, it can only be believed.I believe the NT writers claimed that Jesus did get resurrected from the dead. If that's not true, then that's the bigger hoax ever committed. But it shouldn't be blown off with a "So what?", because if it is true, then it's the greatest miracle that's ever happened.
Since ho humans are perfect we are all in need of God's mercy.Question: How does mercy help unless you are condemning??? Condemning, a petty thing mankind holds so dear, isn't God supposed to be above such petty things? Condemning is the real problem.
God's grace is God's unmerited favor and love toward humankind. It is an unconditional act of his kindness and mercy...I do not understand this grace, this kindness and special favors God is supposed to be giving. This physical life is set. God will not allow anyone to interfere with the lessons of another. Now, are you telling me those messengers can convince God to interfere? In reality, God will give His children anything if it doesn't interfere with their lessons or the lessons of another. It goes against God's system to interfere with those lessons.
No, God's grace is extended to for everyone, it is not only for followers of religions.Maybe grace is religion's way of promising favor from God for those followers.
Justice is not payback, justice is punishment when punishment is deserved.How can you say your idea of justice is not payback? OK, maybe this is a language thing. Define your idea of Punishment. Define when you think punishment is deserved.
The Messengers of God are the Manifestations of universal Prophethood Who appeared independently. They are the lawgivers and the founders of a new cycle of religion, by which the foundations of new religion are established, and a new book is revealed. The Manifestations of universal Prophethood Who appeared independently are, for example, Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, the Báb and Bahá’u’lláh, but there were others.Just how many messengers have their been? Who is keeping track? Who decides and by what standards are they determined to be messengers? In reality, your messengers only existed when they decided to start a religion, right?