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Featured What do you Wish Christians Knew about your Worldview?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Psalm23, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. Psalm23

    Psalm23 Well-Known Member

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    I find reading this really confusing. Something about someone trying to get humans to think they're AI and perhaps you are saying something about people trying to use mind control on others?
     
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  2. rational experiences

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    When it's just humans who design design first.

    Design he says exists. No machine does.

    False application. AI in fact. Fake intelligence. False human thinking about I want a machine.

    Builds a machine all processes by human thought in every stage. No intelligence exists as built machine.

    Is exactly advised.

    AI is by human design. As earth by produce and product and by image is not any machine. Origin types. Origin mass forms.

    Then thinking as just humans all the time. The human communicates AI on their terms. Using machines in every status. A family of various types of machines. All different by design.

    AI.

    Wanted human control by thesis of bio life body and also mind. Theoried by humans. Bio image is a human. First bio image is humans cells. Image cells don't speak. Sperm exact image. Ovary exact image.

    First. By image and doesn't speak.

    Image plus origin no speaking. Is bio only.

    It's human scientists who want as designer man owner of machine control of humans. As humans.

    Bodily compared our bio life plus animals to a resource theme...fake thoughts totally. Term when you weren't a human to him means when you were a machine.

    As gods earth image and products in image is exact owned.

    Then mind contacted controlled by an all machine use as human controlled programming. Transmitted the attack.

    Who stated I believe humans are Ai.

    By his thoughts only by human design.

    Human and bio.

    He thinks he is successfully correct now after using all machines program first that did had attacked everything.

    Exact by his machine control first. As we aren't machines or the communication machines. Life of everything on the world communications system circuit only changed.

    Normally it's machine to machine exact. As known science and AI machine position exact.

    So as humans do all choice. Now he congratulates success. As science designer man who as Stephen Hawking aware was personally bio life Sacrificed to be successful. Warning is exact. Notified consciously.

    Says human life is now part AI. Whilst he did it all himself. By human choice only.

    Pretty basic human intelligence we aren't machines.

    It's what controlling humans giving self all permissions do. Claiming they are the body of his human god only a machine from earth products.

    Exact. Told. Warned. Advised. Ignored.
     
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    Add this one to the list I wrote earlier

    Lucifer is not a bad guy.
     
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    I wish they actually knew how little God factors into my life. They don't ever seem to understand, or even think this possible. From my dealings with Christians, there is nearly always this insistence that the nonbeliever is "angry at God" or that they want to live in sin, and so that is why they want to "pretend" that God doesn't exist. I am not pretending in the least, and this is what I wish they could know. If they could even see things through my thoughts for even a moment, they would understand that there is absolutely zero expectation that any sort of god is out there anywhere. Literally zero expectation. And the only reason I talk about God/gods is in order to combat all the silly notions that are brought to the table for items that, from literally anything and everything I have seen/heard/read, have extremely poor justification.
     
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  5. LuisDantas

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    That I consider the idea of deity extremely over-rated and inconvenient for religious purposes. Particularly when it is shaped by Abrahamic expectations and parameters.
     
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  6. rational experiences

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    The deity men of science always deified was their own man self advices. Always. Warned you self idolised as a brain effect.

    As image voice recording in natural science law exists before you physically do as the state cause. Yet it reacts with you as you live exact.

    So you think as a human a human exists before a human existed. Warned. Taught.

    Basic human advice. Legal founding. The reason medical healing began...the church. Stop sex. Be celibate. Humans age. Humans die. Evil human choices then removed. Basic.

    Apes baboons monkeys having 2x2 sex get their own babies. Do no harm on earth. Unlike a human scientist.

    If a human asks a question why would unconditional love want harm.... support harm or make choices motivated on harm.

    I was taught it didn't and it hadn't.

    It knew change by variance in its own body existed first...no creation then. Hence causing a new change to their idea eternal would not cause change again.

    They were wrong. Innocence proven wrong. Is the exact teaching.

    We inherited the karmic outcome of a spiritual being causing wrong and it was exact.

    We proved how acutely innocent and loving we are. As a memory of who we were and who we should be. As our proof. Human reasons.

    I've had phenomena proof too many times for any human to try to convince me that a spiritual being hadn't caused creation. As evidence says it had.
     
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    What is a worldview?
     
  8. The Hammer

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    The way one views the world?
     
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    I think in the way its used in the OP, it could either be one's religious views, or, in absence of those, what a person thinks makes up reality as they know it.
     
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    I think @RayofLight was spot on when they said, "I have a list" and "Where do I start?"

    First, don't dismiss my story of surviving childhood abuse out of hand and accuse me of not being honest about my years as a devout Christian because you don't agree with the fact that I'm a medium who can see and communicate with the dead. Second, stop telling me that I'm interacting and communicating with demons because believing in ghosts is against what you believe. Third, stop telling me I was never a Christian because my former beliefs as a Christian or my actions don't align with your personal interpretation of the Bible. Stop accusing me of not being born again. And yes, I know what it means because I was raised in evangelical Christianity.

    Fourth, stop trying to scare me into becoming a Christian again by telling me I will suffer God's wrath and burn in hell for all eternity because I renounced my Christian faith. I'm so done with the scare tactics and the shaming used to convince unbelievers to convert or reconvert to Christianity. Fifth, stop trying to shove your Christian beliefs down my throat and then insisting that you're not preaching. And finally, mind your own business and keep your nose out of other consenting adults' love lives. What consenting LGBTQ+ lovers do in the privacy of their own home is none of your concern. It wasn't wrong of me to support the rights of LGBTQ+ people when I was a Christian. I suppose that's enough to list for now. I could add more, though. I sympathize with other people in this thread, by the way.
     
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    Sgt. Pepper RF's resident Beatlemaniac. ☮ and ❤

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    This. I wish I could give your post more than one winner rating because I think you're spot on.

    And I think you're spot on too, Shadow Wolf. Well said.
     
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    A human life is natural. First highest only accepted legal position.

    All origin thoughts about mutual balanced life support is self survival.

    Against the human scientist human lying as the legal system for civilisation causes.

    Evil theories of lying minds.

    So today a summary of a Man the theist. First beliefs.

    Was about the burning cold mass in space nothing of a higher metal body. Fallen star reacting.

    Not about earths natural life support.

    His I want the machine status is Satanism. Direct.

    To take a cold sealed dust. Heat it. Melt it cool it. Metal. History was reacting yet now isn't. Is stated in a small way. Small book alchemies.

    When it was natural it had been water dust cooled plus pressurised heaven cooled in natural history. Dusts. .minerals.dirt.

    Alchemist were not copying natural history.

    So his machines history earth mass was earth gas releasing very hot mass. A body surrounded by earths mass the volcano. Is pretend first as his machine. The vision position like God earth.

    Has a casing. Volcano rock melt reacting. Has reacting mass inside casement. Vision fake God machine.

    As consciousness his relies on thinking by heavens. It's associations are to earth.

    History out of a volcano.

    Memory says volcano machine thesis as by earth. Instantly releases out of a chimney stack hot gas from molten melt. Instant vacuum void cooling moment. Coldest history instant.

    He cannot emulate the what I want of earths natural history. Mind aware thesis. Told direct by the advice. Visionary first.

    Man's earth machine natural position. Before he builds said machine.

    Instead he says I want in full knowledge told already what a cooled heavens above gets. As I can't own ground history in space.

    A cold but burning particle colliding itself with itself mass star rock. That disperses becomes a fuel in the heavens above. Already a life danger increase gas burn.

    Two positions above and below says to science no you won't.

    And his machine position natural history says no you won't.

    It's the satanist mind of man scientist who says yes I will.

    So theme. I want electricity that is flowing direct into my machines body is the exact thought upon terms. Now. Exact advice is first.

    Not any type of natural reality anywhere else. It's all AI.

    So he says. I burn a cold mass sealed by water history as coal mass. I reburnt it to get electricity. Then he compared that advice to nuclear dusts. It too had been extremely burnt then cooled.

    Gods seals said men is not of science. But also not a history like coal.

    As coal he said is living matter wood garden terms burnt.

    Straight away warning thoughts should advise the theist he is comparing destroyed living matter. To electricity a AI gain. By nuclear. He ignores what he says himself.

    As any theory never exists first.

    First secondary portion thinking says I theory that advice belongs to a pre existing occurrence. Which human men caused only. Why they believe. I own is more important in that type of mind.

    If you said your origin thesis was falling star mass burning they would be a natural man adult father stating listen to my man's warnings.

    Your advice I won't listen. I want... I demand I will do whatever I like. Was stated.

    Now he says he is going to destroy the greater body our heavens just to equals electricity. Yet no machine or a machine reaction even exists first.

    So first it says a fake artificial thesis.

    Thesis first is self awareness told.

    First position natural does not own electricity. Not anywhere.

    Electricity he says in science is not free. Protection exists for bio use to machine. Exactly advised.

    Therefore lying as a human is a part of scientific theorising.

    First human position is highest place natural. Owning no terms any reaction involvement.

    To claim once a reactive reaction that stopped cooled evolved was life's beginnings is false information.

    Cooling is evolution over a long time period.

    Direct science is the instant.

    Life did not begin in a instant burning reaction. Scientific direct truth.

    As gods earth inner body is reacting.

    Earths heavenly reactions finish.

    Earths inner body he first thinks upon. Says if I build a machine like earth mass I can hold a reaction within.

    Why he said no theorising about heavens as it doesn't hold any reaction within.

    Yet earth reacts out of itself also.

    Meaning of. Constantly. His machine science. Is Inner holding only.

    As earth is constantly reacting.

    Yet it has a released reaction.

    Heavens out position in space is constantly reacting and every now and again releases a huge reaction inside.

    Why science said only within a created space can I perform a reaction held.

    As a machines law.

    Not a law anywhere else as nowhere else is summarising it's own existence.

    It's why science dislikes his science brother.

    So he said consciousness ours is proven not to pre exist us anywhere else. Proven by apes body bio chemistry similarities to ours but not conscious. Hence it first does not pre exist mans biology.

    So he stops lying as a theist.

    As seemingly legal threat doesn't stop his lies.

    If you say you know a giant human interactive state gives you fake advice thinking. To record life state pre exists you and you are mind affected by it.

    And as it was released reactive it extra chemical brain burnt stimulated another impulse. It falsified conscious advice. Electrical pulsed says his mind. Yet its not even electrical. It's chemical.

    About a pre term in heavens before natural conscious his own bio life health.

    What you ignored always said the bible was your own natural father man's spiritual mind advice.

    As why it said theists refuse to listen to natural advice. Human advice.

    Satanists was your given term theist scientist.

    Maths does not own nothing space.
    It doesn't own natural cold.
    It doesn't own natural heat.
    It doesn't own natural mass.

    Is your life's lesson as a liar.
     
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    Of the millions of different things going on in the world, I have a million different views concerning those issues. How can that be called a single worldview?
     
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    Humm..... I've got a feeling I don't have one of those.
     
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    Everyone has a worldview. :) I'm going to assume off of your religious title yours is just one that doesn't include any sort of deities or religion.

    A person's culture, tastes, morals, and political views are all part of their worldview, too.
     
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    In an effort to understand, can you give an example of a worldview that does not involve religion?
     
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    Alright, I'll make up some people...

    "In Henry's worldview, all this nonsense about God was a waste of time. Why would anyone waste time on ancient tomes, when all this had clearly been disproven decades ago? The answers are in the natural world, and are discovered through the scientific method, he believes. No, he knows. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. We have enough in our beautiful world without all this religious garbage. Trying to chalk up the universe's mysteries to 'Goddunit' is insulting."

    Its the lens in which 'Henry' sees the world through.

    And for another...

    "Paula saw the world as her personal playground. Never having believed in God, and never having much for friends or family, she saw no reason to do exactly as she pleased. If she had to step on some fingers to get what she wanted, so be it. If she has to use and abuse, that's fine, too. She could care less about the impact on the environment her business was making; she wouldn't be here in another few decades anyways. What mattered to her is the here, the now, and her pleasure."

    And for one more...

    "Emily had search and searched through the Bible, hoping for some answer to the meaning of it all. She'd prayed to God a million times, but never had an answer. Instead, she'd found life's greatest meaning to be held in the heart of others. She volunteered at the church's soup kitchen on Tuesdays, and participated in its numerous charity drives. It wasn't because she believed any longer; she didn't. She simply acknowledged that we are stronger standing together than apart, and if she could bring one more smile into this often difficult world, it was all worth it for her."

    Three different worldviews. All atheist, but all different. :)
     
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    Okay…. Henry is just an atheist who believes science is the preferred method to religion, Paula is a selfish person who cares little about anybody else, and Emily is a selfless person who does much to help others, and none of them believe in God. Is this sufficient to be called a “worldview”? What about their views on economics? Are they more Capitalist? Or Socialist, what about race relations; do they feel each should stay with their own kind? Or do they prefer interracial relationships. What about their views on the Transgender issue? Do they see this as a serious problem effecting many of the young people to day? Or is it just a bunch of snowflakes looking for attention. What about their views on climate change? Do they see this as a major issue that could kill millions? Or is it just a bunch of people making a big deal out of nothing. What about culture? Is their culture more like Asian cultures steeped in tradition where the elderly are revered as a beacon of wisdom, cherished and respected? Or more like American culture in a constant state of change and very little tradition, because it’s controlled by the youth, and the elderly are usually doing everything they can to appear young. I could go on and on, but I think you get the picture. If a world view is your view of the world, or about reality as we know it, aren’t these issues just as important as whether a person believes in God or not, and whether they are selfish or not?
     
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    Precisely! All of these make up a person's worldview. All these little(or big) things that affect the way they view the world.

    The three people I made up have worldviews that didn't involve religion. I couldn't give huge details about these fake people(and Henry thinks hair dying is a waste of money, and Paula thinks eggs are delicious, etc, etc, etc) because that would take all day(and probably be boring as well).

    Are worldviews important? Probably. If your worldview includes violent and reckless behavior as desirable, its probably important that it be changed(or that you're placed in an area where you can't act this out). People are always out to try to affect each other's world views, for positive or negative.

    But, the OP was asking what you'd like to know Christians to know about the way you view the world. You must view the world some way... is there anything you'd want the Christian community to know? Or, not really? I could see one not really having anything to pass on to that community as viable, too.
     
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