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What do you think of these two passages?Do they look like they point to a life after death?

Frank Goad

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I forgot to say in the title of my post.That I want people who both believe in life after death.And people who don't.:)
 

The Anointed

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GNB, Ecclesiastes 12: 7; "Our bodies will return to the dust of the earth, and the breath of life will go back to God, who gave it to us." Useless, useless, said the Philosopher. It is all use less.

Solomon wrote four books and the book of Ecclesiastes is his Satirical work aimed at those who believed in neither life after death or the resurrection of the body.

From the book of Sirach, which is to be found in the Apocrypha of the Old Testament, coupled together with the book of Job, a number of the Psalms, Parables, Ecclesiastes, and the Wisdom of Solomon, all belong to the Hogmah or Wisdom Literature of the Hebrews, ‘Mashal’ means Similitude, parable, or proverb.----- In the book of Sirach, R, H, Charles translation chapter 47 verse 17, it is written concerning Solomon, “By thy songs, parables, dark speeches, and satires, thou didst cause astonishment to the peoples etc.”

Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die. I envy those who are dead and gone; they are better off than those who are still alive. But better off than either, are those who have never been born etc.

A man may have a hundred children and live a long time, but no matter how long he lives, if he does not get his share of happiness and does not receive a descent burial, then I say that a baby born dead is better off.

Man and animal receive the same ultimate reward, total oblivion, from the dust they came and to the dust they shall return. A wise man is no better off than a fool, the reward for doing good is the same as that for doing evil, so don’t be too good or too wise, Why kill yourself?

We are all going to our final resting place, and although life is useless, the conclusion of the matter is, if you live a religious life you may at least experience some peace in the short span of consciousness that has been allocated to you in this useless life. So go ahead and eat, drink and be merry, drink your wine and be cheerful. It’s all right with God. Enjoy your life with the woman you love, as long as you live the useless life that God has given you in this world. Enjoy every useless day of it, because that is all that you’ll get for all your troubles.

Never again will you take part in anything that happens in the world, because there will be no action, no thought, no knowledge, no wisdom in the world of the dead to where the righteous, the wicked, the wise and the fools, animal and man, are all going. For the living know that they are going to die, but the dead know nothing.

Solomon’s songs are found in his book, ‘SONG OF SONGS,’ his parables are found in his book of 'PROVERBS', his dark speeches are in the ‘WISDOM OF SOLOMON,’ and who can read the negative and even depressing words from the book of ‘Ecclesiastes without realizing that here is the 'SATIRICAL' work of Solomon, aimed at those people of the godless religion, who believed in neither life after death, or the resurrection from the dead.

If anyone believes the satirical work of Solomon, is the actual word of God, then they must accept that once their body dies then the invisible mind that is they, will die with it, for never again will you take part in anything that happens in the world, because there will be no action, no thought, no knowledge, no wisdom in the world of the dead to where the righteous, the wicked, the wise and the fools, animal and man, are all going. For the living know that they are going to die, but the dead know nothing.

Whereas Paul makes it quite clear that far as he and the apostles are concerned, the mind/spirit that had developed within the body, survives the death of their bodies and stands before the judgement seat of Christ, where they are given everlasting Life, or are to be cast back into the refining fires of physical life once again, where the mind is wiped clean from the Soul, and is given a new body in which a new mind will develop, in the next cycle of universal activity.

Ezekiel 11: 19; I will give them a new heart and a new mind.

You must Love God with all your body. soul and spirit.

Mark 12: 30; And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart=body, and with all your soul=life force, and with all your mind=spirit.
 
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