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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Nimos, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:20 AM.

  1. Nimos

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    This is not meant to be about faith or truth of religion or stuff like that.

    But would like to hear from a personal point of view what people get from their religion.

    1. What does your religion give you in terms of positive values in your life? Do you think it makes you a better person than you could be without it? So basically just thoughts about what you get from your belief.

    2. Do you think that there are any negative things about your religion, which you think limit you or restrict you or make you behave in ways which you have a hard time accepting? and so on.
     
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  2. Desert Snake

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    Is it my religion, or is it my religion?

    I'm more concerned about whether it is my religion, than whether it is my religion.

    In the emptiness of unbelief, one may find that we exist beyond the mundane, if one knows that, they may concern themselves with other things, beyond that which is discernable or changeable via rationalization of actions or even beliefs.

    So, is your question truly answerable?
     
  3. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    My religion is the belief in Advaita Vedanta

    My religion gives my a constant sense of ultimate peace and happiness beyond the events of the material plane.
    No. By definition, if there was anything in my beliefs that I did not think was correct then they would not be in my beliefs. In other words, I don't follow an authoritarian type of religion.
     
  4. bobhikes

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    Religion is an organization run by people so it is both good and bad in the same percentages people are.

    For me religion is a time of reflection, a time of socialization, and a time peacefulness in a rough, stressful and high anxiety work week. Religion is a comfort that requires very little from me. The negatives for me are the time it requires and the negatives it produces in society which I have to answer to.
     
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    I have philosophical questions and religions give me answers.
     
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    In my religion we let negative things like suffering and evil turn into nothingnes. I have a saying "believe in yes," if you catch my drift...
     
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    My religion gives me comradeship. ....:)
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I get nothing from my religion. NM: "Sighs a breath of relief"

    Heavenly.
     
  9. PureX

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    I am not religious in that I do not subscribe to or practice any religious proscriptions, rituals, or traditions. However, I do accept, philosophically, the wisdom and promise of Christianity. That is that we all have the Spirit of the Divine within us, and that if we will allow ourselves to become it's embodiment, it will heal us and save us from ourselves. And it will help us to heal and save others.

    I am also not a religious taoist, but I do accept, philosophically, the proposition that even though I cannot know the mind or intent of the Divine, I can still find alignment with it by embodying the way it is being expressed in the ebb and flow of world around me.

    Together these give me both purpose, and peace. And all I need to do to practice them is to relax, and get 'out of my own way'.
     
  10. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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    I'm learning to be much more compassionate and much less judgmental. I have my moments when I forget myself but they're becoming fewer and further between. So yeah, I think it's making me a better person. One of the things I say in my prayers is "... and just help me to be a good man, the kind my dogs think I am".

    No, not really. We have no commandments, divine laws or requirements. We're responsible and accountable to our karma. Even then, there are people who pay it no mind. We do the best we can.
     
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    I'm a Jodo Shinshu/Shin Buddhist.

    1. Shin gives me a "Buddha's eye" view of the tangle of life which Buddhism calls "Samsara". I see that, within Samsara, all things are impermanent, and the only permanence is found outside of Samsara in Bodhi - the Unborn, the Unconditioned.

    2. I have no doctrinal problems with Shin, since my conversion to it was prefaced by a long search of various religions and spiritual tradition. For me, Shin fits like a glove.
     
  12. Unveiled Artist

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    I'm still learning more about the Unitarian faith. There are many christians here, a lot; so, it's hard to get from that mindset and follow spirituality from a open perspective. In other words, not isolating spirituality or religion as a "thing" to be a part of.

    It gives me community. Everyone comes from different backgrounds, religious point of view, and without at the same time following the same principles and goals for the betterment of ourselves and others. Basically, just life in a church. Just as life we have our different meanings but we survive and have other basic spiritual needs it's the same thing in our religious and worldviews.

    I like how services involve everyone individually contributing as a whole. For example, in our joys and sorrows we tell the church individually things we'd like the church to keep in mind and things we want our "family" to be uplifted together. For example, when I found out I have a tumor [beign], they were concerned and helpful. I'm taking classes towards my B.S. Degree, they supported. Likewise I with others.

    I actually don't know. I choose to be part of this community; and, my life doesn't depend on it. I choose to be a part of it because I benefit from it. Either way, I'll still survive just I desire community in living life.

    Unitarian Universalist have a christian background. We branched off from protestant thinking as we [those who follow christian thought] believe everyone will be saved and no one deserves to be separated from god. In the 1960s I believe, the U.U. Church became more extensively political more than religious. So, depending on the church you may have more christian-oriented services, many secular political, others secular religious. They help in the form of social justice.

    I'm not too keen on political oriented services. We don't have that much in our church, though. I really don't keep track of who the next mayor is but with the causes, I am full agreement with. I do things a bit less political but on the same note.

    Another is the religion is challenging my biases. Because of history, majority of U.U. are caucasian. I seen sermons over United States and it's interestings the imbalance. I'm the only African American in our church and, "by looks" the only one who doesn't look outside the white-majority to put it generally. It is a bit uncomfortable and many people there are uncomfortable with it. We addressed in in some services and other churches I went to to help with pastoral care. It depends on the church but you can tell.

    It really challenges how I feel when I'm not in a mixed environment. Though, I don't feel any harsh prejudices just mostly people are uncomfortable when the subject is brought up.

    Other than the political part, the community and spirituality is very warming and any church will have its hiccups it's just working through them is the key; no one is perfect.
     
  13. Saint Frankenstein

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    My religion is a plus in my life because it encourages me to be strong and persevere during the times I feel like giving up most. Most of my deities are to die at the end of this cosmic cycle yet much of the lore involves them fighting against it even though they know their fate is sealed. It's like, you know you're going to die but you keep going anyway because it is the honorable thing to do. This is very inspiring to me during my frequent bouts with depression. There's other positive impacts such as encouraging me to stand up for myself and not be a pushover, encouraging individuality and freedom, etc. but the first thing stands out in my mind at the moment.

    As for negative things - no, it does not dictate behaviors or make me do anything I'm not comfortable with. I just have to realize that all things have a consequence, good or bad, in the interconnecting web of wyrd. But I am free to make my choices. My religion is far from the moralizing type. It goes along with another core aspect of my religion - self-responsibility. My actions are my own and mine only. No one's going to save me from what my actions have sowed.
     
  14. Vinayaka

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    To paraphrase JFK ... it's not what you get from your religion, but what your religion gets from you.
     
  15. paarsurrey

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    What do you get from your Religion?

    1. We come to know about attributes of G-d and as to how these are manifested in the universe.
    2. We know the purpose of creation of the universe and of human life
    3. and the path to attain this purpose.
    And it is not a small thing. Right, please?

    Regards
     
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    My religion gives me teachings and laws that guide my path and help me become a better person and improve my character. It also gives me something to talk about to people on forums, something beyond the mundane material existence. It also allows me to form relationships with people on forums, because I do not like to socialize in person.

    My religion gives me the assurance that there is a much better life that follows this Earthly life.

    No, there is nothing I would do differently if I was not a Baha’i, except that I would have a lot more time to have fun, as we discussed on the other thread. :D

    I will get back to you on that thread as soon as possible. I have been detained with my sordid life lately. :(
     
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    That is basically the same as what Baha'is get from religion.
    Islam is very similar to the Baha'i Faith in many ways. :)
     
  18. Deeje

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    What I get from my religion is.....
    Answers to all the hard questions that I had wondered about for years....

    It gave me a reason for why humans are basically so selfish and why the world is going "to hell in a hand basket"....

    It gives me God's solution to the problem of the abuse of free will and why it leads to injustice.

    It gives me hope for those I have lost in death and explains why death is still so foreign to humankind even though we have never known anything else.

    It allows me to face the trials of this life, knowing that my God guides me in all things. Nothing will happen that God doesn't allow for his own reasons. I am not wandering aimlessly, but have a sure direction.
     
  19. Nimos

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    Just wondering, so people from a broad point of view, you see as being selfish? Why do you believe that and what do you think is the cause for this selfishness?
     
  20. Deeje

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    Self-interest has always been a problem for humans. From the Bible's perspective, it is what tempted Adam and his wife to disobey their God and choose for themselves an independent course, with disastrous consequences. They were influenced by another entity who also abused his free will...so selfishness is something that can spread to others.

    Since God did not create us to be independent, we can see that all attempts at independent rule have failed to deliver any really successful form of governance. At present we are witnessing the death of democracy....yet another failed system. Capitalism creates greed and we see it running rampant in democratic nations. The gulf between the wealthy and the poor continues to widen. There is no sharing.....and little caring by those who only want to look after number one. Another financial crisis is looming.

    As free-willed beings, we can decide our own actions, but any decision we make cannot be totally selfish. We possess the ability to evaluate the consequences of our actions and to understand what may result as a result of our actions....both good and bad. This is so, both individually and collectively on a national level.

    What we are seeing in human behavior is an almost complete disregard for consequences. Many people, corporations and nations make their decisions with little thought about the fall-out. Whether in personal decisions, moral situations, and in the political and commercial arenas, we see self-interest coming before any regard for consequences.

    This destroys relationships, harms the environment and foments racial hatreds, religious intolerance and wars.

    I believe that the lessons from the past are seldom heeded and so humanity is doomed to keep repeating them.

    Selfishness is inborn, and necessary to a limited degree, but through growth, education and experience, self-interest has to be off-set by genuine interest in others. Free-will must be tempered by regard for a good outcome for the collective, not just for self.
     
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