paarsurrey
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Jesus and Mary belonged to "Judaism" and were "Jews". PleaseNor were they Communists, Muslims, French, or engineers.
Were they?
Please.
regards.
Tom
They were not Catholics. Right?
Please
Regards
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Jesus and Mary belonged to "Judaism" and were "Jews". PleaseNor were they Communists, Muslims, French, or engineers.
Were they?
Please.
regards.
Tom
My Faith Statement: "Whatever caused this universe I'll call 'God' and pretty much just leave it at that."Seeing anybodys sig line is more trouble than it's worth on my mobile. What is yours?
Tom
And how do you supposedly know this?Jesus and Mary never did any of the things done in the Catholic church.
It is forbidden under Canon Law for Catholics to pray to statues.They never prayed to statues.
Jesus never celebrated His Birthday? He did like to party, you know. As for His Resurrection, He wasn't around long enough afterwards to celebrate it, but maybe they had some drinks. His disciples were mostly in a state of shock over it. Then He floated up into the air.They never celebrated Christmas or Easter.
Why would they need to pray to themselves to reflect on their own life?They never used rosary beads.
No one prays to statues.They never prayed to statues.
And you can't even get those correct.And that is only a few.
I can document, as I have previously, concerning the argument that there is definite pagan beliefs in not only the Roman Church, but persists in most Protestant divisions of Christianity.
The Genesis accounts,which are the basis for the Hellenist pagan view of inherited guilt and thus Original Sin, and the references to polytheism in the Pentateuch and the Psalms, have specific and documented origins in Babylonian, Ugarite, and Canaanite 'pagan' cuneiform texts long before and Hebrew texts existed.
It is forbidden under Canon Law for Catholics to pray to statues.
It is forbidden under Canon Law for Catholics to pray to statues.
Roman refers to the Roman-rite or the Roman particular church of the Catholic Church. There's also the Eastern-rite. The liturgy, theology and traditions are different between the rites but both are in communion with the Pope.
Roman Rite - Wikipedia
It is my understanding that the 1st Commandment specifically forbids gods other than Yahweh.However, it is my understanding of Exodus 20:4 and Deuteronomy 5:8-9 that No statures are to be made.
Jesus and Mary belonged to "Judaism" and were "Jews". Please
They were not Catholics. Right?
Please
Regards
Well, just go ahead and ruin it.It was just a joke. You're talking about the first of the 10 Commandments. I was talking about the first of the Biblical Commandments.
It is my understanding that the 1st Commandment specifically forbids gods other than Yahweh.
@Tumah disagrees, but nevertheless. ...
One can hardly attend a Christian gathering or place of worship without encountering an image of Jesus. Abraham, Moses, and the Prophets wouldn't recognize any human as God, or even the Son of God, much less a Triune Godhead.
Whatever that means.
Tom
True, but on the other hand, I view prayer more like chanting or some other rhythmic activity to help calm the mind.And on another point, Jesus told people that when they pray they should not use repetitions because that is what heathens do. They think God will hear them better if they repeat something over and over. So how many times do catholics repeat the same thing over and over.Ten, twenty, more? Is God partly deaf? He won't hear a prayer if you say it one time? Our father, our father, our father, hail Mary, hail Mary, hail Mary. Yep, just like the heathens.
Which is one interpretation out of several. Depending on one's beliefs on this matter, it could constitute a "graven image", but what exactly is a "graven image" is not clearly defined in Torah.However, it is my understanding of Exodus 20:4 and Deuteronomy 5:8-9 that No statures are to be made.
But notice the last four words that I underlined above. Also, see my previous post.In the 10 commandments listed in chapter 20 of Exodus it says, " thou shalt not MAKE unto thee any graven image or any likeness of any thing which is in heaven."
It's used as a mantra and is a meditative type of prayer. IOW, while saying the rosary, you're really meditating or praying on something else.And on another point, Jesus told people that when they pray they should not use repetitions because that is what heathens do. They think God will hear them better if they repeat something over and over. So how many times do catholics repeat the same thing over and over.Ten, twenty, more? Is God partly deaf? He won't hear a prayer if you say it one time? Our father, our father, our father, hail Mary, hail Mary, hail Mary. Yep, just like the heathens.
Actually it was the name adopted, along with "Christianity", for the apostolic church.They were Jews, yes. Catholicism was the term given to Christianity in Europe after it's assimilation of some Pagan elements.