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Wearing a mask. Who are you to gripe and whine

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by We Never Know, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. We Never Know

    We Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Dr wears mask's for many hours
    Nurses wear mask's during their shift
    Workers in sanitation wear mask's
    Painter's wear mask's.
    Sand blasters wear mask's
    Exterminators wear mask's
    Boiler makers wear mask's
    People in wood shops wear masks
    Miner's wear masks
    Etc etc.

    Many working people now or always have wear/wore mask's thoughtout their 8 to 12 hours shift.

    So tell me how you smother by wearing a mask during your 20 minutes of shopping.

    Quit whining!!!

    If you have breathing problems, this doesn't apply to you.
     
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    The only mask that ever bothered me were some cheap N95 masks for work. They fit so poorly that everyone had trouble with them wearing a hole at the top of the bridge of their noses. People improvised pads as a result and that of course negated the reason for using the masks
     
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    If I may ask, what job were you doing that required a N95 mask?
     
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    I have grown to love wearing masks. I don't suffer from allergy or flu problems anymore because the mask prevents contamination. I will probably still wear them after it isn't mandatory.
     
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    Long story. I have been semi-retired for a long time and became a certified nursing assistant because I was bored, wanted to do something productive, and liked working with senior citizens. The place where I worked became Covid positive, meaning that we had either residents or workers that had tested positive or both. Guess where I probably got Covid from?

    Unfortunately I knew nothing of the industry and I would have had second thoughts about the place that I worked for if I knew what I learned as time went on.
     
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    We Never Know Well-Known Member

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    PPE's if not required are common sense protection. I wouldn't weld without gloves, fight fire without a suit, work in a mine without a mask.
    Im sorry you contacted covid but researching your job and its risks are key for your own protection.
    Working as a CNA with seniors leads me to think of a nursing home. C.DIF is something that runs pretty frequent in nursing homes. Precautions should always be taken for many things that may happen there.
     
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    Boy do I agree with you on masks.

    There are some people who appear to have stopped emotional maturation at age 2-3 based on the utter meltdowns I've seen and read about.
     
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  8. Conscious thoughts

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    Totally agree with you :)

    Personally i thinking of continue wearing a mask long after Covid-19 is gone, due to how much it has helped me breathing when i go to more populated areas where i live.
     
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    Oh yes, washing ones hands was frequent. The problem was that the home I worked at functioned more as a warehouse than a care facility. Constantly understaffed, often in trouble with the state. They constantly asked people to work extra shifts with promises of bonuses that did not come through half of the time. Finally one night there were three of us assigned to a unit with 29 residents. Both of the others who had much more experience than me (they were emergency agency hires, agencies had people that they hired out for at least twice our rate as emergency fill ins. I was the rookie in the bunch). anyway I was still optimistic. I said that we should be able to make it through the twelve hour shift if we worked together. But no sooner did we begin than the one female worker was taken away to work in our new "Covid positive wing". There was one nurse and one aid taking care of two people. An extremely light workload. Meanwhile the two of us were left in an area with 29 people. Most of whom took two people to change etc. Very early into our shift one woman who was "female care only" refused our care. There was not much we could do except to tell the nurse on duty about this. We did not have time to convince her that we only wanted to make her comfortable. So we went to work on the rest. Needless to say we fell behind. And yet we did not do too badly. When it comes to changing people BM's take precedence over wetting one's briefs and we did manage to keep on top of that, even though some were very time consuming.

    When the next shift came on there were people that were not cared for properly. And we were told by them "we have to report this". Of course they did. At that point we were so burned out that we did not care much, though I still offered and stuck around to help them to catch up after twelve straight hours. My nurse, also my boss, reassured me that there should be no problem because she knew that we were working all night and she was going to write that up. Well it did not work. I was put on suspension for that night even though it was an impossible task. I would have complained but this coincided with me getting Covid. I might have got it that night since I had my weekend and was about to go back to work when I fell ill. I was about five minutes from calling in sick when they called me. I went back to work after my suspension, all forgiven. Told them that I had been ill and so of course they tested me. I was Covid positive, though I was over it by then. Back home for two more weeks. A couple of days later I was "let go". I told the supervisor how we were overwhelmed and she said "You two should have been able to handle 19 people.: That pissed me off, I told here that it was 29. She said "whatever". Ten people each is more than stretching the limit and is probably illegal by state standards. 15 each is insane.

    At any rate I thought that was it. But that was not all. There was a state investigation. I did not know it but I was reported and investigated first. I did not know that I was reported until the state informed me that they had investigated me and found that I was not at fault. But that was not all. I was questioned a few times. It turns out that they were being investigated. Not just for what happened that night, but for the facilities general malfeasance. I finally found out about this due to a write up in the papers. The nightmare that I lived through was cited in the article of an example of how badly understaffed the place was. They through me under the bus because I was a the bottom of the totem pole and they had to sacrifice someone. It did not work.. The paper never talked to me. They had to get their example of how understaffed they were from the state investigator.

    The facility ended up with a huge state fine and with possible federal fines to follow. I was vindicated, Which is nice, but it soured me on the field. One sad note that I found out from the newspaper article, a coworker, who I had only worked with a few times caught the virus too. She did not make it. We were both working together closely before we both came down with Covid. Who knows, one of us might have caught it form the other.

    I could probably link the article if you want to read it.
     
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    Unless lungs are severely Corona infected
     
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    Then you would probably be in a hospital in isolation and not in the streets
     
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    There are many homeless people nowadays, and not all people invite them to stay into their homes:D
     
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    Sadly most nursing homes function that way unless its a private pay nursing home.
    Our elders get less care than infants in many homes. But I don't see that ever changing. As long as they get paid its business as usual.
    I agree you two had too many to care for. Its like having 2 people to care for 29 infants and that isn't possible. Its not the same but similar because they require constant attention.
    Losing that job may have been a good thing in disguise. It set you free to do other things if nothing else.
    Many nursing homes operate with minimum staff and not by code. Many would suffer fines or closure if the right investigation was done.
    It sucks you had to experience all that but cut your losses and move on to better days.
     
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    When it comes to being sick with Covid-19 i would help a homeless person to hospital, and pay his or her medical bill if it did cost them something.
     
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    That's not what I consider a breathing problem. That's an infection that caused a breathing problem. There is a difference.
     
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    Fyi.. My oldest daughter is a NP(Nurse Practitioner). She works in clinics, hospitals and nursing homes so I hear all kinds of stories.
     
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    Thanks. I went from my one contact with one of the three (count 'em three heads of nursing in my very short tenure there, another bad sign by the way) of "I have heard very good things about you" to we are letting you go. I do have to admit to quite of bit of schadenfreude for their pain in firing me.
     
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    I had to look "schadenfreude" up. I'm still not sure how its meant lol

    Edit.... After studying it again I'm guessing sorry for their loss or happy they let you go.
     
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    I never whine about wearing a mask, in fact I am getting to like it because I do not have to put on a fake smile. :D
    Admittedly, at first I did not want to war one to the grocery store, but as soon as the governor made it mandatory I got on board and never complained again.
     
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    Fyi.... If and when I go out around many other people I wear a mask. I mainly wear it in case I'm a carrier because I don't want to infect anyone.
    I'm one of these bad unvaccinated people, even though I already had it doesn't mean I can't get it again or be a carrier,,, same with vaccinated people.
    Last year they said if you already had it you wouldn't get again then, then they sort of changed that. Then they said if you get vaccinated you won't get it, then they sort of changed that.

    It is what it is. And that is mostly unknown because they are just going by the now because there aren't really any lengthy past studies to go by.
     
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