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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SalixIncendium, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Resident Hermit
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    Whether you know it or not, each time you use the pronoun "we" in your representation of your personal views, you presume to speak on my behalf.

    I don't presume to speak for you, so please don't presume to speak for me.
     
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  2. Woberts

    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    This is the line of division.
    We would like to remind us that within the confines of this glorious pit we call RF, we speak as one.
    For we are one.
     
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  3. Woberts

    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    The OP reminded me of the beginning of this song:
     
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  4. Unveiled Artist

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    Depends on how personal you take it. The word "you" sounds like an accusation but it's the same as "in my opinion, I noticed you..."

    Some people use "We" to refer to their own group of peers. We (Americans) think this way. However, online, we forget that we can't use We since not everyone is from America.

    Really depends.
     
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    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    Who is included in "we" depends upon context.
    We Revoltistanians would include you....unless in immigrate.
     
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    That is just our ego talking again.
     
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    One what?
     
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    blame it on this lady:

    [​IMG]
     
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    No we don't!

    I may be talking on behalf of people from Manchester, England or Overweight Beer Drinkers or people who have had a Replacement Knee. Now I don't know where you live or what your habits and health is but I suspect I may have missed you on at least 2 of those criteria.
     
  10. Augustus

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    Not necessarily, it doesn't always mean everyone in the group in qiuestion. Can just mean 'this is common among this group'.

    Also it is useful when describing general human characteristics, so it doesn't seem like you are consider yourself to above such failings.

    e.g. "We are not very rational creatures", "we find it easier to see other people's mistakes than our own", "we easily believe that which is convenient".
     
  11. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Not sure we know what you mean.
     
  12. SalixIncendium

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    If one makes an assertion such as "We are not God" or "We are separate from God" without any inclusive qualifiers, such as "we of Manchester," "we overweight beer drinkers," or "we who had knee replacements," the one is including me (and you) in their assertion.
     
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    SalixIncendium Resident Hermit
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    Yes, but in the OP, I specifically speak of personal views, not generalized human characteristics.
     
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    And lots of people will disagree that they are affected by such characteristics and consider the statement to be a personal view.
     
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    As in Hey YOU!.......

     
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  16. Vinayaka

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    I think it is a common error, yes, but sometimes 'we' does suit the context.
     
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    Have you ever heard "non-ego" talk?
     
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    Interesting issue.
    To overcome ego, it's good to think bigger, so "we" thinking/acting is recommended by some wise guys
    But "we" talking, I agree, is not really useful and quite untrue when sharing personal views IMHO
     
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    do not assume I speak for you
    and though I tend to be unique.....I am never without others of similar spirit
     
  20. Curious George

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    I hate it when we second guess our self.
     
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