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We Live In A Haunted House

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by w00t, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. teapot_tall_and_yummy

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    Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
     
  2. Runt

    Runt Well-Known Member

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    Creativity, my friend. Creativity. Nobody really knows what ghosts are, so why not?
     
  3. LilChrist

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    And here's my answer for you. Do you think God would omit something in the Bible that would leave people open to the spirit of fear? If so, then I suppose you are right, although God would be contradicting Himself if true. But that's impossible, because God is the same yesterday, today and forever. You can not believe the Bible is true and ghosts(the spirits of the deceased) exist. At least, not completely. If you believe the Bible, the only answer is that ghosts are demons pretending to be deceased or non-existent people.
     
  4. LilChrist

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    I tihnk I finally have somewhat of an understanding of what you were trying to say...so here's my anology, what I think based on what I think I understand. If you drown, of course your body is going to die, and of course your footprints are going to be there until some water or wind wipes them away. Ghosts can not be a reflection of actions, as they are moving. Reflections of actions as a living being would be something like a home video of a father and son playing around together. A video or photograph or diary. Not actually you. A projection of what you were at some point in your life, not a wondering soul or ghost. How you put it, it makes it as though ghosts are figments of a persons imagination, which in many cases are true. But, that's my anology based on what I think I understand.
     
  5. Runt

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    Yes! Like a metaphycial videotape showing a being at a certain time in his or her life but not actually being that being. I would guess that if ghosts do exist, and if I am right that they are not wandering souls so much as an imprint of a creature's life at a specific point in space, then they are created something like this: an important event in a human life that had a huge impact on them, charged with emotion, is strong enough to live an imprint. Unfortunatly, I think violence and death are VERY descriptive of that kind of emotionally charged event, which may account for the fact that ghosts often seem frightening.
     
  6. LilChrist

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    But, if you are right, then ghosts don't really exist, right? They ARE merely figments of peoples' imaginations. Of course, even if you agree with that, I don't mostly.
     
  7. painted wolf

    painted wolf Grey Muzzle

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    so we can have Deamons but not Ghosts....

    I dont get it....

    wa:-do
     
  8. true blood

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    ghost and spirit are synonyms..
    demon is an evil type..
     
  9. Runt

    Runt Well-Known Member

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    LilChrist--

    Is a footprint or a movie a figment of your imagination? No, they are very real.
     
  10. Bastet

    Bastet Vile Stove-Toucher

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    I still don't see how you get "all ghosts are evil" from that. Tis not logical.
     
  11. Mr Spinkles

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    Yes.....and maybe if you believe hard enough, it will actually come true. :lol:

    Come on people! Is this the 21st century or what? I thought we rational, modern humans had got past ghosts and other mythical lore. Sure, ghosts might exist--and I have an enchanted jockstrap.
     
  12. Runt

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    Alright, how about this Mr_Spinkles... why is it that several houses that are supposedly haunted get weird readings on scientific instruments? I'm not talking about photographs or videos, which, as everyone will agree, are easy to fake with today's technology. But other stuff has been picked up. Scientifically. Whether or not they are "ghosts" or "souls" or "spirits" is unknown... but there is definitely SOMETHING there.
     
  13. LilChrist

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    I'm not quite sure whether you're looking for ghost stories or explainmations. As for myself, I can only provide the latter. Most ghosts stories can be discounted as elaborate jokes, lies, fear making your mind produce an image, etc. But, many have gone unexplained. Some interesting things are, the people that see ghosts that can't be explained are usually either involved with the supernatural or the place that they spot ghosts has been involved in the supernatural. Although rarely taken seriously, (Ghostbusters) many cases are genuine, minus one fact; they aren't seeing ghosts. According to the Bible, "And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement:" Hebrews 9:27 KJV. So, according to the Bible, once you die, you go straight to judgement. No lingering as a ghost. Only demons can charade as ghosts, even sounding and looking exactly like a loved one or stranger that lived in a place previously or a non-existent person. No ghosts.
     
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    But what if a ghost is kind of a "spiritual signature" rather than a lingering soul? Kind of like... you walk in wet sand and leave footprints, then go swimming and drown. Your physical body dies. Your soul flees and goes where it belongs. But those footprints are still there... they are still a reflection of your life, of you as a living being, of your ACTIONS as a living being... perhaps ghosts are something similar.
     
  15. LilChrist

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    How the heck can you relate ghosts to that? No offense, but I'm genuinely puzzled...
     
  16. teapot_tall_and_yummy

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    Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
     
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    Creativity, my friend. Creativity. Nobody really knows what ghosts are, so why not?
     
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    "The immediate data suggests the detection of an unknown energy anomaly in the area of M3 where several witnesses had reported paranormal activity, and according to the legend the traumatic events of a “Carl’s” wife’s murder occurred. All electrostatic, ionic, and other electromagnetic radiation data gather suggests some type of randomly appearing and non-constant energy in room M3. The odd behavior of this phenomenon to appear as non-constant energy type and the energies relative movement suggests something other than a geomagnetic anomaly. However, the Brook Forest Inn’s structure is enclosed in quartzite and a type of piezoelectric effect could be to blame for the unusual fields (Klien, 1999). If this were true then the randomly selected rooms would have the same occurrence of anomalies. Unfortunately only baseline tests were taken of the randomly selected rooms and until more research is conducted no answer will be known."--http://www.aacsich.org/

    Maybe... maybe not. Ghosts? Or weird energy readings from quartzite? Either way, there's still SOMETHING there, and humans can sense it. It's no wonder that people's imaginations go wild and start dreaming up ghosts when they feel something odd that they can't explain. You feel weird energy... it disturbs you because it is subtally "different"... your discomfort/fear starts feeding your subconscious minds... you have odd dreams, or see something out of the corner of your eye and apply a scary face to it, and BOOM!, you've created a ghost.
     
  19. true blood

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    Bas, what the hell are you saying? All ghost are evil??? When did I say this? You even quoted me. lol

    I'm under the conclusion that whoever is right will be bashed the most.
     
  20. Bastet

    Bastet Vile Stove-Toucher

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    Oops, sorry true blood...seems I got you mixed up with something LilChrist was saying ~ that ghosts are only demons pretending to be deceased people. My bad. :oops:
     
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