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We came ...we saw ...he died

Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Since I am an European and I don't understand American politicians that much..could you please explain this video to me?
Thank you very much Americans:)

 
Stanyon

Stanyon

WWMRD?
sooda said:
The US didn't kill Ghaddafi, A Libyan mob killed him.
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The mob might have very well did it on their own but considering U.S. direct support of the Azov in the Ukraine and all the other shenanigans over the years it wouldn't be that much of a leap of the imagination to suspect that though the U.S. military cut ties with Azov that the CIA didn't mind the neo-Nazi ties if it overall served U.S. purposes, we've used far worse people. The "mob" may very well have had a little encouragement which would make sense, they kill him and our hands are clean and secrets die with him.
But this is just speculation
 
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Terry Sampson

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@Estro Felino

Out of curiosity, do Italians care about the negative consequences of the NATO battles in Libya, in 2011, which the U.S., in general, and Hillary Clinton, in particular manipulated into being:
  • Because Italians care about human tragedies as a general rule; or
  • Because Italians care about human tragedies in Libya in particular, or
  • Because Italy has had to endure internal turmoil due to the consequences of the Fall of Libya and all the Libyan refugees fleeing to the nearest country across the Mediterranean Sea?
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Stanyon said:
The mob might have very well did it on their own but considering U.S. direct support of the Azov in the Ukraine and all the other shenanigans over the years it wouldn't be that much of a leap of the imagination to suspect that though the U.S. military cut ties with Azov that the CIA didn't mind the neo-Nazi ties if it overall served U.S. purposes, we've used far worse people. The "mob" may very well have had a little encouragement which would make sense, they kill him and our hands are clean and secrets die with him.
But this is just speculation
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Did you know that Hillary came to read her emails at the Ambrosetti Forum...some weeks ago?

She read them supported by the Italian dems....with a defying tone...in Venice
As if she meant : " I did what I did in spite of Italians, Europeans, Americans".
 
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Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Terry Sampson said:
@Estro Felino

Out of curiosity, do Italians care about the negative consequences of the NATO battles in Libya, in 2011, which the U.S., in general, and Hillary Clinton, in particular manipulated into being:
  • Because Italians care about human tragedies as a general rule; or
  • Because Italians care about human tragedies in Libya in particular, or
  • Because Italy has had to endure internal turmoil due to the consequences of the Fall of Libya and all the Libyan refugees fleeing to the nearest country across the Mediterranean Sea?
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Yes. We do care. Libya was a former colony of ours...and had become one of the wealthiest countries in the Mediterranean. We had invested money, projects, infrastructures in it. Gaddafi had signed the treaty of Benghazi, with which he had become Italy's privileged economic partner and coowner of some Italian state assets.
Gaddafi's downfall provoked the destruction of a country, a great migration wave from SubSaharan Africa...
Italy lost billions of Euros in investments and spends 5-6 billions of euros per year to manage the migration crisis.
 
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sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Stanyon said:
The mob might have very well did it on their own but considering U.S. direct support of the Azov in the Ukraine and all the other shenanigans over the years it wouldn't be that much of a leap of the imagination to suspect that though the U.S. military cut ties with Azov that the CIA didn't mind the neo-Nazi ties if it overall served U.S. purposes, we've used far worse people. The "mob" may very well have had a little encouragement which would make sense, they kill him and our hands are clean and secrets die with him.
But this is just speculation
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You may want to take a long look at Ghadaffi. He had NO education and he was grandiose, flamboyant and ruthless. He threw out the Libyan Constitution, nationalized the oil business prematurely with Tariki who hated Americans and the West.. and he was always hated by the Libyan tribes. That's why he hired African mercenaries for his military and his police.
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Estro Felino said:
Yes. We do care. Libya was a former colony of ours...and had become one of the wealthiest countries in the Mediterranean. We had invested money, projects, infrastructures in it. Gaddafi had signed the treaty of Benghazi, with which he had become Italy's privileged economic partner and coowner of some Italian state assets.
Gaddafi's downfall provoked the destruction of a country, a great migration wave from SubSaharan Africa...
Italy lost billions of Euros in investments and spends 5-6 billions of euros per year to manage the migration crisis.
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Idris had decades of governance before Libya was freed from Italy and he was a good king. He's the one that provided all the social services and big push for literacy in Libya.
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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Staff member
Premium Member
Estro Felino said:
Since I am an European and I don't understand American politicians that much..could you please explain this video to me?
Thank you very much Americans:)

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Hillary is gloating about succeeding at killing Gaddafi, where Reagan had previously failed.

So, that was her way of demonstrating that she's better at being a right-wing warmonger than Reagan was.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Stevicus said:
Hillary is gloating about succeeding at killing Gaddafi, where Reagan had previously failed.

So, that was her way of demonstrating that she's better at being a right-wing warmonger than Reagan was.
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Also because France still controls its former colonial empire through the CFA Franc and other expedients.

We Italians had the right to manage the Libyan situation alone, without American interferences...of any kind. It was ours.
 
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