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Was the Occupation of the Capitol Yesterday an Act of Sedition?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Wandering Monk, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. ADigitalArtist

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  2. KenS

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    Certainly I would wonder if what you are saying is that one was OK but the other wasn't.

    I wasn't at Portland but some reported:

    "When the police and federal officers came out to protect the building, Antifa began “launching projectiles at the officers with sling shots. These projectiles included large rocks, full cans, and bottles. Demonstrators also threw lit commercial grade fireworks, which landed inside the broken glass doors of the federal courthouse.”

    They also continued to set fires in the street.

    They also pushed dumpsters on fire toward the building.

    Then the radicals launched mortars into the Federal Courthouse through the broken glass doors and set the building on fire."

    Sounds pretty dangerous to me.

    "Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says" NYP - another title

    "Federal court records detail some of the more serious injuries among the officers, including broken bones, hearing and eye damage and chemical burns."

    Burns, bloody wounds, broken bones: Injuries mount at Portland protests

    So, maybe you should reconsider?
     
  3. Wandering Monk

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    Didn't take long, did it Ken S?
     
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    I was in Portland. I was in Portland the day they responded to paper airplanes thrown over a fence with so much tear gas you could see the plume from space.
    I was there they confiscated a bunch of tent spikes and rods from a homeless camp and pretended it was antifa's weapons.
    I was there when they confiscated orange painted ammo clips they claimed were antifa but were traced back to a police officer with the same orange paint.
    I was there the day unmarked vans were abducting reporters off the street.

    And I was there when the police beat, maced, gassed and arrested people who weren't even part of the protests, just passing through.

    And I was there the day the right lied about it to try and whataboutism their own extremists, even though their extremists have been the only ones to ever have terrorists armed occupy government buildings. Twice. Trump pardoned one of them.
     
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    Perhaps if you presented a source that not include 60 plus days of protesting injuries....

    I.E.
    your "source" includes mostly injuries that did not happen at the fail courthouse takeover.
     
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    Yes. I think so.
     
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    Please. As a Portland native I saw first hand what the left wing rioters were doing. They trashed the city. It’s disgusting.
     
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    So, you are saying that the laser injuries, projectiles, fire are all OK... because no guns were involved... got it!
     
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    You really need to work on your reading comprehension.
     
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    I think the more applicable term to the group that stormed the capitol is insurrection.

    Incitement seems inapplicable to Trump here. If the group in question was interested in listening to Trump... then why weren't they listening to Trump?
    How is it that they were not in attendance of Trump's Rally where he was at that very time speaking, 2 miles away... but were instead invading the capitol building? :confused:
    Their absence from his rally where he was speaking suggests that they were not interested in listening to him.
     
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    I think your chronology is off. The march and invasion happened after Trump's speech.
     
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    Which was also reported to have happened. And if that was from within the rioting group, they were all accessories.
     
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    All you do is repeat RW gossip.
    How many cops died from BLM or Antifa protests? None.
    These conservative domestic terrorists did something much worse.
    For you to think there's an equivalency here is the scary part.
    I understand all you're doing is repeating what you hear.
     
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    If someone didn't know of or couldn't reasonably be
    expected to know of bombs, they shouldn't be treated
    as an accessory. This doesn't appear to be a well
    organized crowd. But there could be sub-groups
    who plotted & organized.
     
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    Good to see this self admission.
     
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    Nice dodge. Learn to be more clear on your opinions.
     
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    Another self admission, eh.
     
  19. fantome profane

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    Not true, if you are knowingly engaged in a conspiracy to commit a criminal act you are responsible for all parts of that conspiracy even if you did not know all the details. As long as you knew you were committing a crime and were part of that conspiracy. If you broke a window or door, or even just a distraction you played a part in helping to plant those bombs, whether you knew it or not doesn’t matter.
     
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    You're supporting my point about limits to culpability.
    It all depends upon what the individual believed they
    were part of....mere protest....a riot.....or sedition?
     
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