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Was Jesus ever married

Discussion in 'Christology DIR' started by Snowbear, Dec 13, 2005.

  1. Snowbear

    Snowbear Nita Okhata

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    The LDS folks on RF seem in agreement that at least at some point in His life, Jesus was probably married. Now I'm asking the rest of the Christian (non-LDS) community.... Was Jesus ever married? Why do you or don't you think He was? Is there any biblical or non-biblical evidence or documentation of this? I mean real evidence or documentation, not "that it's not mentioned in the bible is evidence He was married."

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Buttons*

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    I think Yeshua and Miraim were a metaphor for Seth and Sophia, and therefore were married... however... it's used to explain male and female energies uniting and become one entity, much like yin and yang...
     
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    If you are looking for a verse that says, "Jesus was unmarried", I don't know of any, but I think there is convincing (for me) circumstantial evidence that He never married in His human lifetime.

    For one thing, knowing that He was going to be crucified at a young age, it would not make sense for Jesus to marry a woman knowing He could not be a physical husband and provider after His death. That would not be an act of love. Would you marry someone if you knew you would die at about age 33?

    For Jesus to physically marry a woman would raise the possibility of children, and children of a human man who was the son of God does not fit into God's plan. God will indeed have children, but not that way.

    The Bible records that Jesus made provision for His mother before He died when He said to John, "behold your mother". It seems inconceivable to me that a similar recording of a provision for His wife would not be written if Jesus had wife.

    Peter at one point said to Jesus that he thought it was better for a man not to marry, and Jesus said that not everyone can accept that saying but only he to whom it has been given. Paul on an occasion said that he who is married tends to care about pleasing his wife and he who is unmarried tends to care more for the things of God. Considering what Jesus had to go through, it seems likely that God would not want Him to be encumbered with the responsibilities of caring for a wife.

    Jesus Christ is destined to marry the church, which is called the bride of Christ, when the church is resurrected. There is no reason for Him to be married first to a physical woman in His short physical lifetime.

    Also, I think that the lack of mention of a wife really is evidence that Jesus was not married, because I would expect that something as important as that would be recorded.

    There may be other evidence, but these are some things that come to mind right now.
     
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  4. michel

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    Sorry if I come across as being ignorant, but what evidence is there that Jesus had foreknowledge of the way and the time he would die ?

    I have always believed (maybe assumed would be a better word) that his life developed just like any of ours. The question begs another .....If he knew he was going to die as a 'Sacrifice', does than lend any less validity to his time of being tempted by the devil ? - ie, if he knew he was going to be tempted and would ignore the temptation, what was the point of his having to endure it ?
     
  5. Jayhawker Soule

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    Out of curiosity, why would someone who presumably believes the Gospel of Matthew suddenly concern himself with evidence?
     
  6. michel

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    Edit:- and this is why I have never read the Bible; frankly, I find little use in reading this:-
     
  7. Bishka

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    Just curious, how does that not fit into God's plan?
     
  8. Djamila

    Djamila Bosnjakinja

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    I certainly believe Marija Magdalena was anything but what the Christian churches have made her out to be in the years since. She was a preacher at the time of Christ, they suggest she may have been intended to assume the Papacy in Rome, to become the first Pope. It's only since the medieval era that she's been painted in such a foul light.

    Whether or not she married Jesus, I don't really see any dramatic impact from that. But allowing women to assume the roles that they apparently held during Jesus' time would destroy the whole structure of the modern Christian churches. They'll no longer be the safe way for homosexual men to be accepted in deeply religious, Christian societies but an accurate reflection of what it appears God intended.
     
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    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    What makes Matthew any less reliable than Luke or John?
     
  10. michel

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    Accoding to the book "The Da vinci Code".............:rolleyes:

    http://www.thetruthaboutdavinci.com/faq/mary-magdalene.html
    Mary Magdalene
    According to the New Testament, Mary Magdalene was a disciple of Jesus from whom he cast "seven demons"; she followed him throughout his ministry, witnessed the crucifixion, and, with two other female disciples, discovered the empty tomb. Mary was probably from Magdala, a village on the western shore of the Sea of Galilee.
    The Da Vinci Code alleges that the New Testament excludes an important fact: ‘‘The marriage of Jesus and Mary Magdalene is part of the historical record’’ (245). There is no evidence in any first-century record that implies a sexual or marital relationship between Jesus and Mary Mag&shy;dalene. Additionally, even if Jesus had married—again, a proposition for which there is no reliable evidence—it wouldn’t be destructive to Chris&shy;tian faith (as Dan Brown implies), for the Scriptures neither affirm nor deny that Jesus was married.
    The Da Vinci Code notes that Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute: ‘‘That unfortunate misconception is the legacy of a smear campaign launched by the early church. The church needed to defame Mary Mag&shy;dalene to cover up her dangerous secret [i.e., Mary’s role as the spouse of Jesus]’’ (244).
    There is no biblical evidence that she was a prostitute. Jesus cast seven demons out of Mary (Luke 8:2), but there is no biblical data to suggest she was sexually immoral. At the same time, there is also no evidence to suggest that anyone instituted a ‘‘smear campaign’’ to discredit her. A tradition arose in the third and fourth centuries that she was the sinful woman mentioned in Luke 7:36–50 and, perhaps, the woman caught in adultery in John 7:53–8:11; in 591, Pope Gregory I included this teaching in a sermon. Although such identifications were probably mistaken, they are far from a slander crusade launched to hide a dangerous secret.
     
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    33 was pretty old in that day. It would have been unusual for somebody that age to not be married. Heck, it's even unusual in this society. ;)
     
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    I personally don't believe that Jesus was married because the Bible never says so. However, even if He was, it would not make a differance in my faith, so it does not really matter to me.
     
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    Quite a skewed view you have there, Djamila. What do you base this 'knowledge' on?
     
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    Which churches? Biblically, as you noted, she was an evangelist and devoted to Jesus' mission...
     
  15. Djamila

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    I don't understand the question? In Europe, at least, it was common for homosexual men to join the church up until fairly recently, by historical standards. It was a way to be accepted into European society for them. I assume it was the same in America, given all the controversies lately.

    As for the role of women... if Marija Magdalena was indeed a preacher, and tipped to be the first Pope - then, obviously, a woman's rule in the modern-day church has been diminished. There are countless churches with internal conflicts regarding women. I've seen specials about women preachers at some churches in the United States. So who knows.

    But I still don't understand your question, all I've said is fairly common knowledge as far I'm aware?
     
  16. Djamila

    Djamila Bosnjakinja

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    All the churches I assume? In religious studies, we learned how beginning in the medieval era there was quite a successful effort to paint Marija Magdalena as a (I can't type it, or it'll be censored, so I'll sexually promiscuous) and immoral woman.
     
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    Is your 'common knowledge' based on the Catholic Church in Europe? There is really very little in common btween the Catholic/Orthodox church 'structure' and that of the evangelical, protestant and reformation type of churches. At least here in the US....
     
  18. Djamila

    Djamila Bosnjakinja

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    Yes, I don't know how the structure of these American denominations works. I've never heard of them existing in Europe. But the Roman Catholic Church in America had some of the most infamous sex scandals of the Roman Catholic world, and the... Anglican Church? Has that split because of the gay bishop. I forget the rest.

    Do I sound like I'm being condescending? I make people so defensive and I really don't mean to.
     
  19. Snowbear

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    Not all Christian churches teach the same thing.
    Not all of them even teach from the bible :eek:
    In the case of the churches who actually teach from the Word of God (aka the Bible), she is not painted as a prostitute.
     
  20. Djamila

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    Oh good! That makes me...? Proud? LOL Not the right word, but along those lines.
     
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