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Was Jesus Christ Born a Christian?
- Thread starter SalixIncendium
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't know.
Baptized into what? Christianity?
I would say that Jesus - if real - was not a Christian.
A Christian is a follower of Christ. Jesus wouldn't have followed himself.
Callisto
Hellenismos, BTW
More like for what rather than into what. Baptism is an act of purification, via immersion or aspersions with water. After Jesus was baptized, supposedly the heavens opened and the Holy Spirit appeared to him as a dove. God gave him the thumbs up and he then went off to form his ministry which became Christianity.
NB: That's IMO, just this Pagan's dusty recollection from my youth spent in Catholic school.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
There was an event.
So, there was a water immersion. But there was also an anointing with the spirit. Christ means anointed. There was also a voice proclaiming Jesus as son of God. The water immersion is a purity ritual, so after this Jesus is sinless. All of these are important features of what it means to be Christian. Anointed with spirit + belief that Jesus was sinless + belief that Jesus is son of God = Christian. I'm saying at that event Jesus himself became who he is.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
No .. Jesus was a Jew.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Chiristianity did not yet exist when Jesus was alive. Jesus was a Jew who practiced second temple Judaism. IMHO, he never set out to start a new religion and is probably turning over in his grave. It was Paul that made Christianity a religion separate from Judaism.
Bible tells a Christian is a disciple of Jesus. Why would anyone think Jesus is a disciple of himself?
It was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Acts 11:26
Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, "If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32
Okay. So we pretty much have a consensus that Jesus wasn't born a Christian.
Many, if not all, traditions within Christianity believe in Jesus' second coming. When He comes again, will he be born a Christian? If not, will he be considered a Christian? When? Upon baptism?
Many, if not all, traditions within Christianity believe in Jesus' second coming. When He comes again, will he be born a Christian? If not, will he be considered a Christian? When? Upon baptism?
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
Jesus will follow truth .. Jesus is not G-d [the Father].
The Father will send him as Messiah to a world controlled by evil [beast],
and those that acknowledge who he is, will obey what he says.
That didn't answer my question.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
Maybe not .. we will all have to wait and see.
There are three events which may mark his becoming a Christian, however in heaven he was always Christian. They are: his baptism, his prayer in which he accepts his death and his death.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Nobody is born Christian. It's a set of religious beliefs that can only be held as an informed (even if it's poorly) conscious conclusion. Lots of religions like to promote the idea that people are born in to their faith or can be brought in at a very young age for obvious reasons but that doesn't mean they're right.
This looks like whether Buddha was born a Buddhist. Seems False by definition of the words
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
If he has any sense, he won't. It's not like Christians will listen to him anyway. They'll be ready with nails and timber.
In Christianity the belief is that Jesus will return by coming down from Heaven, as opposed to by being somehow reincarnated
It will be the return of Jesus Christ not the emergence of Jesus Christ II
That is why 100% people who claim to be him are all wrong and will always be wrong