Was Islam spread by the sword?

[paarsurrey]

Was Islam spread by the sword?
No.
Islam did not spread by sword. In fact sword is a hindrance in the way of spread of Islam. Quran provides both commandments and the gist of wisdom of the same; this peculiarity is not retained in book of any other revealed religion.Islam flourishes most in peace with its strong reasonable and rational arguments.
For example:
Further to post #258
Spread of Islam in Comoros: [2]
Islam and its institutions have helped to integrate Comorian society and provide identification with a world beyond the islands' shores. Most adherents are Arab-Swahilior Persian, but there are also people of Indian descent.
History[edit]
Local legend claims Islam was brought to the islands during Muhammad’s lifetime, brought by two Comorian nobles, Fey Bedja Mwamba and Mtswa Mwandze, who visited Mecca.[1] Historical evidence suggests Arab merchants and exiled Sunni Persian Shirazi princes first introduced the religion.
Islam has long played a central role in the Comoros.
Islam in Comoros - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Comoros had only three murder cases in the last 30 years and violent crime is almost unheard of. An Islamic scholar was elected President in 2006 after years of political turmoil engineered by France and other countries.

http://www.islamicfocus.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=24
Country/Region:[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comoros'] Comoros[/URL]
Muslim population 2010 Pew Report[1]:785,000
Muslim percentage (%) of total population 2010 Pew Report[1] :98.3
Percentage (%) of World Muslim population 2010 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
Muslim Population Other Sources :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comoros'] Comoros[/URL] . Do you see any?
Please correct me if I am wrong.

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[morphesium]

Fail to recognize him if you so choose and travel back to the age of donkeys.


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If there was no scientific development in the rest of the Non-Muslim world, you would be still riding on camels and donkeys - the past and the future would look the same.

 

[morphesium]

"Freedom of expression ". Islam allows it:
[109:7]‘For you your religion, and for me my religion.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=109

So can you say Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile by todays standards?

"Islam will dominate the world". Yes, by convincing one's heart and soul and with brilliant arguments and peaceful dialogue as Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslims are doing in the world and have spread in 207 countries of the world in a matter of about a 100 years. No need for violence

A few years from now, you will be glorifying the acts of ISIS. You would be saying "all on a sudden (because of the acts of the generous and peace loving ISIS people, all the non-Muslims turned to Muslims to an extent that there were no nonmuslims left".

"Islam is the perfect religion for all mankind". Yes, it is but that requires use of no force. If the countries of the world are convinced of the core teachings of Islam and vote for it as per the law of the land and the constitution, there is no harm it.
None of the above three require any extremism or use of force or compulsion whatsoever.
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Sit and think- if there were no islam the world would have been a better place. life would have been better. If your religion didn't brainwash your people, they themslevs would quit this dirty and irrational religion.

 

[gnostic]

Please ask such historians to give details of the the battles Muhammad fought with the Meccans while living in Mecca for 40+13=53 years Muhammad lived in Mecca. The most devoted followers of Islam, like Abu Bakr, Omer, Uthman, Ali, many of them, got converted during this period because of the brilliant signs, character of Muhammad and reasonable arguments of Quran, there was no fight whatsoever worth the name. Please
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So you are going to completely ignore the time from he spent in Medina to the day he died: 623 - 632???

His actions from raids upon merchant caravans, to the assassinations, to his treatments of Jews and pagans, reveal his true self as vengeful and bloodthirsty nature of ruthless warlord.

It is with an large army that Muhammad that compelled people in Mecca to give up their traditional religion and convert to Islam, in 630.

If Muhammad didn't enter Mecca without his army in 630, do you think they would have surrendered to him as they did and converted as they did?

I don't think so.

And even before Medina, he cause his own problem - the persecution - by his preaching denunciation of pagans and calling for destruction of idols at the Kaaba. It was his own teachings that led to non-Muslims treating him harshly. Had he left them alone, he probably wouldn't have need to leave Mecca in the first place.

 

[paarsurrey]

And even before Medina, he cause his own problem - the persecution - by his preaching denunciation of pagans and calling for destruction of idols at the Kaaba. It was his own teachings that led to non-Muslims treating him harshly. Had he left them alone, he probably wouldn't have need to leave Mecca in the first place.

The Meccans were not pagans. They believed in Allah.
One denies Muhammad freedom of speech and freedom of religion at Mecca. Does one? Why? Please
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[gnostic]

The Meccans were not pagans. They believed in Allah.
One denies Muhammad freedom of speech and freedom of religion at Mecca. Does one? Why? Please
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The traditional Arabic religion is that they worship all gods in their pantheon, not just Allah. And they worshipped idols, including that of Allah.

Before Muhammad, Arabs were never monotheistic. Polytheism and henotheism were the nature of Arabic religious practices before Muhammad.

 

[Shad]

One denies Muhammad freedom of speech and freedom of religion at Mecca. Does one? Why? Please
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Who said there was free speech or religion in Mecca? You are injecting an anachronism into the 7th century. The irony is that present Mecca does not allow for the above.

 

[paarsurrey]

The traditional Arabic religion is that they worship all gods in their pantheon, not just Allah. And they worshipped idols, including that of Allah.
Before Muhammad, Arabs were never monotheistic. Polytheism and henotheism were the nature of Arabic religious practices before Muhammad.

You are very wrong. There was no idol of Allah in Mecca, never. Right?Please
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[paarsurrey]

Further to Posts #2717, #2720 , #2722, and #2942 in response to OP's Post #1 I have to add:
Those who doubt that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad they should focus on spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam, If it has happened now peacefully, it should be a clear sign for the doubtful that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad.
I gave how Ahmadiyya spread peacefully in Argentina post #2430, Australia Post #2460 , Austria Post #2489, Bangladesh Post #2513, Belarus Post #2535, Belgium Post#2556, Belize #2571, Bulgaria Post #2595, Cameroon Post #2619, Canada Post #2636,Chad Post #2651,Congo #2672, Denmark #2703, Egypt #2824, Fiji #2883, France #2942, Germany #3025, Ghana #3102 .

• Now I give peaceful spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam in
  
  Guatemala. [2]

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Guatemala: Ahmadiyya Muslim Community organizes "Solutions for World Peace" symposium
The conference, addressed by the representatives of the Baha'I faith, Maya Spirituality, and Islam, addressed several interfaith matters including how the faiths promote world peace.

Ahmadiyya Times | News Watch | US Desk
Source/Credit: Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at Guatemala
By Imran Jattala | June 8, 2013
The the members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community of Guatemala organized their first Interfaith Symposium at Baitul Awal Mosque in Guatemala City, Guatemala.
The conference entitled "Solutions for World of Peace," was held at 3:30 PM on Saturday, June 1, 2013
The meeting was organized by the efforts of Imam Abdul Sattar Khan, President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community of Guatemala.
Imam Sattar Khan represents the Khalifa of Islam and the worldwide head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad.
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a dynamic, reformist and fast-growing international revival movement within Islam.
The conference, addressed by the representatives of the Baha'I faith, Maya Spirituality, and Islam, addressed several interfaith matters including how the faiths promote world peace.
http://ahmadiyyatimes.blogspot.ca/2013/06/guatemala-ahmadiyya-muslim-community.html

Country/Region:

Guatemala
Ahmadiyya population : 100
Percentage (%) of Muslims :8.3
Percentage (%) of population :< 0.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_by_country

Does one see any sword used for spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam in

Guatemala ?
Isn't it a glorious sign for the wise? Please

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[outhouse]

focus on spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam,

FACTUALLY has nothing to do with the origin of islam

That is NOT what this OP is about

 

[paarsurrey]

Who said there was free speech or religion in Mecca? You are injecting an anachronism into the 7th century. The irony is that present Mecca does not allow for the above.

Muhammad was a man of all ages and of all places. He respected and confirmed every truthful and revealed religions of the world:

[22:40]Permissionto fightis given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them —
[22:41]Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty —
[22:42]Those who, if We establish them in the earth, will observe Prayer and pay the Zakat and enjoin good and forbid evil. And with Allah rests the final issue of all affairs.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=22&verse=40​

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[paarsurrey]

Mestemia said: ↑
In Post #2682
What does the Koran say about cars?
What does the Koran say about cloning?
What does the Koran say about medicine?
other than camel urine is a magical cure all...
paarsurrey said: ↑
Are you against animals? Camel is an innocent animal. Isn't it? Please

Paarsurrey says:
This innocent animal (camel) which was called the ship of the desert in Arabia, was to be a sign, among many others, as mentioned in Quran in Post #2833 and Hadith Post #2854and illustrated further in #2910, #2962 and the latest in this connection #3011,#3110.
Not only the camel but a sort of a donkey was also incidentally mentioned, that was to appear at End of Days or the time of truthful Jesus' Second Coming in Hadith of truthful Muhammad.
So Quran and Hadith both give clues about the modern means of transport in symbolic form:
Some other novel features of this symbolic donkey of the anti-Christ are described in great detail in various books of traditions. The following is a composite presentation of the information derived from them, it is further added:
Continued from post #3135 where five points were mentioned:

1. He would have regular stoppages on its way. At every stoppage the public would be invited to come and be seated before he resumes his journey and every departure would be loudly announced. Thus the metaphorical donkey would continuously travel from place to place providing people with a fast, convenient and comfortable means of transport.48
2. The passengers travelling in the belly would in no way be scorched by the fire he had eaten indicating that the seating compartment in his belly would be fully insulated from the fire chamber. 48
3. This donkey will also be able to travel by sea and move from continent to continent riding the ocean waves. 49
4. During his journey by sea he would somehow swell to a much larger size. Thus he will be able to transport mountains of food upon his back across the oceans. Many a time he will be employed to deliver these enormous food supplies to such poor nations as abjectly bow to the will of the anti-Christ. The transportation of mountain-loads of food is a figurative expression reminiscent of the one contained in another previously quoted verse which predicted such times when mountains will be made to move. 50
5. The amazing donkey would also know how to fly because some of his gigantic leaps are described to cover distances between East and West. It is said that one foot of the beast will be in the East and the other in the West. This is indicative of the size of his leap meaning that he would take off from one continent and land in another. 51
6. In the air he will move above the level of the clouds. 52
7. On his forehead he would carry the moon. Apparently the moon refers to the headlights which most modern vehicles are equipped with. 52

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_6_section 2.html
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[outhouse]

FACTUALLY has nothing to do with the origin of islam

That is NOT what this OP is about

 

[paarsurrey]

Who said there was free speech or religion in Mecca? You are injecting an anachronism into the 7th century. The irony is that present Mecca does not allow for the above.

Muhammad advent was a turning point for humanity. He upheld freedom of speech, freedom of religion and peaceful co-existence:

• Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
• Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/​

Muhammad was a role model of the above high morals.
It were the evil forces in Mecca and all around who got against Muhammad for all these merits.They desired to extinguish this light with the breath of their mouths but Muhammad withstood every such attempt.
So, the Meccans were responsible for whatever they did to him. Why blame Muhammad?
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[outhouse]

Muhammad was a role model of the above high morals

FACTUALLY has nothing to do with the origin of islam

That is NOT what this OP is about

It is about ALL the BLOOD he spilled forcing his religion on others

 

[Shad]

Muhammad advent was a turning point for humanity. He upheld freedom of speech, freedom of religion and peaceful co-existence:

• Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
• Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/​

Muhammad was a role model of the above high morals.
It were the evil forces in Mecca and all around who got against Muhammad for all these merits.They desired to extinguish this light with the breath of their mouths but Muhammad withstood every such attempt.
So, the Meccans were responsible for whatever they did to him. Why blame Muhammad?
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Apostasy laws counter your view. Blasphemy laws counter your views. Beside your post has nothing to do with my comment. I asked you who said there was freedom of speech and religion in Mecca prior to Islam's conquest.

 

[paarsurrey]

Apostasy laws counter your view. Blasphemy laws counter your views. Beside your post has nothing to do with my comment. I asked you who said there was freedom of speech and religion in Mecca prior to Islam's conquest.

There are no such laws in Quran.
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[gnostic]

The Meccans were not pagans. They believed in Allah.
One denies Muhammad freedom of speech and freedom of religion at Mecca. Does one? Why? Please

The traditional Arabic religion is that they worship all gods in their pantheon, not just Allah. And they worshipped idols, including that of Allah.

Before Muhammad, Arabs were never monotheistic. Polytheism and henotheism were the nature of Arabic religious practices before Muhammad.

You are very wrong. There was no idol of Allah in Mecca, never. Right?Please

You have absolutely no understanding of even Islamic history, let alone pre-Islamic history.

The Arabs before Muhammad publicly made his claim as a prophet in 610, the Arabs of Mecca were polytheists and pagans. They worshipped, I don't know how many gods, but they worshipped more than just Allah. The Meccans were never monotheists, before Muhammad.

Before Allah was a creator god, but he was also originally a moon god, and he was one god among many. He was said to be father of 3 daughters, all goddesses.

One of the reasons that Meccans were threatened him, was because he was preaching and threatening the pagans of having their idols destroyed at Mecca - the Kaaba.

Why do you think Muhammad was forced to flee to Medina? He was forced to, because he threaten the Arabic traditional pagan religion.

 

[Augustus]

Before Muhammad, Arabs were never monotheistic. Polytheism and henotheism were the nature of Arabic religious practices before Muhammad.

Err, yes they were. For many centuries in large numbers.

Arabia was the borderlands between 2 great empires, not some timeless backwater.

Paganism had all but died out in South Arabia based on the archeological record. There was significant conflict between Jews and Christians in Himyar in the period leading up to Muhammed's life. The North Arabian Tribes such as the Ghassanids and the Lakhmids were aligned with the 2 Empires and formed the bulk of the Roman military and a significant part of the Persian one. They were Christians.

The Persians had been using Jews as proxied in East Arabia, the Romans used Christians in the South, West and in Ethiopia to try to control the region.

Tellingly, the audience of significant parts of the Quran is clearly well versed in theological and Christological issues.

Ironically, you are repeating Islamic theology rather than history.

 

[paarsurrey]

Following points may please be noted :
· The Quran contains several verses regarding the origin of the Kaaba, it states that the Kaaba was the first House of Worship, and that it was built or re-built byIbrahimandIshmaelon God's instructions.
Verily, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for mankind.

—Quran, Chapter 3 (Aale-Imran) verse 96[24]
Behold! We gave the site, to Ibrahim, of the (Sacred) House, (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me; and sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or stand up, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).
—Quran, Chapter 22 (Al Hajj) verse 26[25]

And remember Ibrahim and Ishmael raised the foundations of the House (With this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-knowing.
—Quran, Chapter 2 (Al Bakarah) verse 127[26]
· After the construction was complete, God enjoined the descendants of Ishmael to perform an annual pilgrimage: theHajjand theKorban, sacrifice of cattle. The vicinity of the shrine was also made a sanctuary where bloodshed and war were forbidden.[Quran 22:26–33]
· InSamaritanliterature, the Samaritan Book of the Secrets of Moses (Asatir) claims that Ishmael and his eldest sonNebaiothbuilt the Kaaba as well as the city of Mecca.[49]"The Secrets of Moses" or Asatir book was suggested by some opinion to have been compiled in the 10th century,[50]while another opinion in 1927 suggested that it was written no later than the second half of the 3rd century BC.[51]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

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