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Want to hire illegals and skirt immigration laws? Temp agencies.

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Nowhere Man, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member

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    Its gotten much worse in Yuma in the past three years, hasn't it?
     
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    So ? These people are not likely to be unskilled, uneducated economic migrants.

    Pointing out one problem in relation to another doesn´t solve either.

    Most illegal alien murders, are by illegal crossers, not visa over stays most illegal alien drunk driving and hit and runs are by illegal crossers.

    So both problems need to be addressed.
     
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    If there are no laws on the books to enforce, you cannot arbitrarily make one up on the fly.

    One of the biggest supporters of weak or non existent border laws is the US chamber of commerce, for the reasons you pointed out.

    Don´t think they don have congress people from both parties on their payrolls in some fashion.
     
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    Yes, but don´t try and heap all the blame on Trump, there is plenty to go around.

    It started during Obamaś presidency, and has grown since then.

    As word goes back as to how easy it is to get in, they economic exodus grows year by year.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    I live in an asylum city, here in Trump land southern Indiana.
    They don't call themselves that, because it's politically incorrect. But it's true.

    Back in the Bush II administration a rumor swept through the immigrant community that the Fed's were coming through the county, checking papers. So many people believed this that factories and restaurants and other businesses had to shut down, due to a lack of employees.
    The city leaders launched into action. Radio, social media, the newspapers, everyone from the mayor to CEO's were out there insisting that anybody who had a job was welcomed here. "It's safe to go back to work, we'll protect you from the government!"
    And they did. Factories and businesses reopened, and the elite protected their workers from the federal government.

    If that's not a sanctuary city, then I don't know what is. And it's right here in the heartland.
    Tom
     
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    Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: 'U.S. is Out ...
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/26/chamber-of-commerce-demands-more...
    Apr 26, 2019 · Already, about 1.5 million illegal and legal immigrants are admitted to the country every year, to the detriment of U.S. wages. The Chamber of Commerce’s push to increase legal immigration levels is vastly out of step with Republican voters and American voters as a whole.
     
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  7. sooda

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    Look at the data. Don't assume.
     
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    US Chamber of Commerce to Trump: Why we need global trade
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-chamber-commerce-trump-why-025507779.html
    Jan 16, 2017 · US Chamber of Commerce to Trump: Why we need global trade. Through various tweets, Trump has complained about China artificially depreciating its currency, unfairly taxing U.S. products, militarizing the South China Sea, and failing to adequately punish rogue state North Korea.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    So, tell me again why Trump can't deal with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?
    But he can deal with the Mexican government.
    Seriously. You seem to think that Trump can't do anything about the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
    Why do think he is hamstrung concerning US institutions?

    I think it's because he benefits personally. He benefits hugely from cheap labor and poorly informed supporters.
    Perhaps you have another explanation for why Trump doesn't just do what needs to be done. Prosecute the people who give away American jobs.
    Tom
     
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    U.S. Chamber of Commercethomas-j-donohue
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    J. Donohue is president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Since assuming this position in 1997, Donohue has built the Chamber into a lobbying and political powerhouse with expanded influence......

    Thomas J. Donohue
     
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    Now that Trump has gotten Mexico to end the overflow of migrants trespassing across our border, undocumented workers will soon be in short supply. Now temp agencies will have to find legal American workers whom they will have to pay a decent wage.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    C'mon.
    The Republicans ran both houses on Capitol Hill from 2010 to 2018. And for the last couple of years, Trump was president.
    Don't tell me that both parties are equally to blame for the current problems.
    Tom
     
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    If temp agencies paid a fair wage theyd be run out of business. Which would be a good thing, but their entire model of business revolves around exploitation.
     
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    Cut thru the lies.. "For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings"..

    You're a gem.
     
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    When was the last time that you were at the border, or spoke to a Border Patrol Officer ? 200,000 illegals have been released since Dec.

    Immigration has been a mess and in need of repair for decades,

    Your TDS makes you ignore history. Trump shot Kennedy as well.
     
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    You keep using the term ¨ deal with¨. If you don´t have the legal authority you can"t deal with it.

    The Chamber of commerce has the right to support whatever they support. how would you ¨deal¨ with them ?

    If he looks toward the border, the democrats take him to court.

    He has the legal authority to deal with Mexico, enact tariffs.

    Would you have him send troops into the congress and make democrats, at gunpoint, vote to protect our borders ?

    The million illegals this year is just fine with democrats, they see a time when they are in control, and will make them democrat voters.
     
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    I HAVE looked at the data, don´t
    assume I haven´t.

    Itś interesting how you cannot refute, but just imply I am wrong.
     
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    Truth, no matter who likes or dislikes it, is always best.
     
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    Illegal is illegal is the point.
     
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    When's the last time you've been? I'll do you one better: how far away from it do you live?
     
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