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Walmart and Dick's Sporting Goods Sued

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by esmith, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. esmith

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    Unintended consequences?
     
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    Be sure to always quote some text for sources with a pay wall.

    Free link...
    20-year-old man sues Dick's Sporting Goods and Walmart over rifle sale restrictions

    Looks like the guy has a case in Oregonistan....
    Civil Rights Division ENFORCING CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS
     
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    In a rare move, corporations that usually lack any sort of ethical backbone take a surprising stand on an issue that has failed to be acted upon appropriately by the offices that should be taking leadership on the matter. It's both unsurprising and disheartening to see it challenged.
     
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    And here I thought that conservatives actually believe that the government shouldn't intrude on what a private business may or may not wish to sell that is legal otherwise.
     
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    I guess if someone can sue over a gay wedding cake....and no it isn't different.
     
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    These were products they already carried.
     
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    One person's ethical behavior is another's illegal discrimination.
    Guns & wedding cakes have this in common.
     
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    Age and sexual orientation are different. Just as race is a different thing. The kicker is age discrimination is already rampant depending on products and services and depending on the state laws.
     
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    There is a big difference when the government and multiple states are looking to enact the very thing those stores are being sued over. I didn’t see a big push for wedding cake legislation like there is for gun legislation. Miles apart.
     
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    But those are state and federal issues, this is an issue of companies arbitrarily imposing age restrictions on products they already sell despite the state and federal laws.
     
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    The law hasn't yet caught up with what most reasonable people want, hence the current legal battle.

    Give it time.
     
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    In both cases, it's illegal discrimination.
    And both stores believe they're doing the right thing.
    Those are similarities.
     
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    This will be interesting. From what I'm reading, FFL (Federal Firearm License) holders could refuse a sale based on mere feelings. Some comments pointed to that they still cannot refuse to a protected class so IMO it's quite contradictory. It's OK to be cautious as long as it's not based on hate. If that's the test against which to judge then I don't think Walmart or Dick's are being hateful. They are being cautious.

    https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-if-...n-are-they-legally-allowed-to-refuse-the-sale
     
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    But they aren't laws yet, lets say someone gets caught with a bag of weed in a state where it is illegal I don't think the "well it's legal in some parts of Colorado and a few other states" defense probably won't work in court.
     
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    Yup not surprising but they should be applauded for getting ahead of laws that many states want to pass anyway.
    Yes states and federal issues get the into things with age. There is a law I saw where employment can’t be dicriminated if your under forty, yeah there is already age discrimination because it isn’t all that protected. Also it isn’t arbitrary, it is very specific to even something the president and several states have proposed.
    The difference is very significant. One tried to use religious rights and the other has to do with sale of deadly weapons that already has dicriminatory power. Like those poor felons and domestic abusers that lose their second amendment rights.
     
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    Sure there are differences.
    But under the law, both must comply with anti-discrimination
    laws, their sense of ethics notwithstanding.
     
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    But it isn't law
     
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    It would be much more interesting if a store gun advocate decided to sell guns to minors and felons and try and take that to court.
     
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