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Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Quick question; is it not possible for a rabbi to be liberal and yet remain within Jewish orthodoxy?
Certainly possible, as I stated:
I recognize like three names on the list. Those three rabbis are orthodox but liberal, as far as I'm aware. I noticed they also included at least three women on a list titled "Rabbis"...:rolleyes:
However, they aren't mainstream orthodox. The article makes it sound as though all the big orthodox rabbis got together and decided to crown Jesus chief rabbi over all of the Jews, which is not at all the case because: a. these rabbis may be orthodox, but they aren't mainstream (=their views aren't that popular by orthodox Jews). b. this is a pretty small group. c. nothing of the sort was ever actually stated in this letter.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
It is acknowledged that Jesus is a faithful Jew, one of their own and considering the history, even up to the present, the reluctance of Ultra Orthodox Jews, ultra traditional Catholics and ultra conservative Evangelicals, this is a promising statement opened to continued dialogue.
I totally agree. In this day and age, even baby steps are "a giant leap for mankind."
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
The article makes it sound as though all the big orthodox rabbis got together and decided to crown Jesus chief rabbi over all of the Jews, which is not at all the

This would obviously be a misreading of the statement and I don't think the purpose of the statement. The headline could be deliberately misleading or typical eye catching to perk the interest to read the column. I think it was the latter.
I asked about the orthodoxy question because of the same issues within the Church; a more liberal priest or theologian is often depicted a heretic though the Church finds them within Catholic orthodoxy.
From the article I did not find praise for Jesus, but acknowledgment that Jesus is speaking completely within the confines of the arguments of the Judaism of His time.
And if so, did Jesus intend a new religion apart from Judaism or a renewal of his own?
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
I asked about the orthodoxy question because of the same issues within the Church; a more liberal priest or theologian is often depicted a heretic though the Church finds them within Catholic orthodoxy.
I don't think they're heretics, I don't think most Orthodox Jews would see this as heresy, just perhaps a little too liberal for most Orthodox tastes. There's a big disagreement today in Israel whether or not Israelis should accept monetary aid from Christian organizations.
And if so, did Jesus intend a new religion apart from Judaism or a renewal of his own?
Guess we'll never know, given how the apostles twisted him and his teachings up.
From the article I did not find praise for Jesus, but acknowledgment that Jesus is speaking completely within the confines of the arguments of the Judaism of His time.
a. That is praise for Jesus. b. The article isn't really worth anything, considering that the letter wasn't saying that; the author of the article has a clear pro-Jesus bias, in my opinion. What the letter said was that Jesus did the world a certain favor by emulating some Jewish ideas and spreading them. It never said he was within the confines of Judaism in his doings.
 
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