Do you think that would give a reliable estimate?
I know that I would not expect Israeli news outlets to have a full understanding of incidents in Palestinian territory.
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I know that I would not expect Israeli news outlets to have a full understanding of incidents in Palestinian territory.
Yes, rioters throw more rocks than the police and military, which begs the question: why?
A Vestigial Mote
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So, if the Jewish people aren't burning cars and homes, then how are they continuing to seize land? Must be through some ultimately peaceful and amenable means, right? Right? Isn't that where we're trying to get to with this kind of graphic?
I don't understand your comment. The infographic in the OP is referring to civilian on civilian violence. I don't know how caught up you are on the actual going-ons in Israel, but the police have basically done a USA and stepped aside, while the military is focused on the situation in Gaza, Lebanon, Judea and Samaria.
Those OP figures are artfully chosen & misleading.
Israel has a powerful military force to attack others,
so there'd be no need to make Molotov cocktails in
synagogues. It's simply a false comparison.
I notice the lack of death & injury totals for Jews
vs others. Those would be illuminating numbers.
Trying to hide &/or excuse this wanton violent
oppression tells me that Israel is on a determined
path to continue the status quo.
Read the news. The military hasn't stepped in.
The police have hardly done anything.
I can get death numbers and can try to get injury numbers. I'm not a journalist, but I can try. May be illuminating, as you say. But I'll only have time tomorrow.
Oh, really.
I wonder who did this....perhaps it's just a leaky gas line?
No, multiple reliable news sources show Israeli military
bombing buildings & tunnels.
Such reports of disparate results are common....
67 killed in Gaza, 7 killed in Israel as UN warns conflict could turn into 'full-scale war' - CNN
Excerpted....
Israel's bombing campaign in Gaza has now killed at least 67 people, including 17 children, and injured more than 388 more, according to the Gaza-based Palestinian health ministry. Israel says at least 15 of the dead were Hamas militants.
49 Dead, Hundreds Injured Amid Warning Israeli-Palestinian Violence Escalating Toward ‘Full-Scale War’
Excerpted....
The death toll in Gaza rose to 43 Palestinians, including 13 children and three women, according to the Health Ministry, with nearly 300 others wounded.
Meanwhile, at least six Israelis have died, including three women and a child, and dozens of others have been injured from what the Israeli military has estimated to be 1,050 rockets fired by militants over the course of the week.
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Well now I'm truly amazed. I mean, I spent multiple posts trying to explain to you the difference between non-Israeli Arabs and Israeli Arabs and yet you still conflate the two. This thread is NOT about the war with Hamas. It's about inter-Israeli riots.
This deflects from the issue of Israeli oppression
& deadly violence towards non-Israeli Arabs, Israeli
Arabs, & Palestinians. Labels are not the issue.
You'll not conquer or subdue them by continuing
oppression & violent retribution, which only inspire
violent resistance.
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Dude, now you are literally off-topic on this thread. No deflection, just two different issues. Related issues, but different nonetheless. Don't like the fact that Arab citizens of Israel are beating up Jewish citizens of Israel? Then leave the thread.
It's a response, sure. But it has nothing to do with the OP.
Inviting me back into the thread, eh. OK.
The OP misrepresents the violence in Israel by making
it about irrelevant statistics, eg, the number of Molotov
cocktails made in synagogues. (Israel makes munitions
in factories....no synagogues needed.)
To challenge the OP's unsourced & incomplete numbers
(which ignore more significant things like death & injury)
is indeed on-topic, & not thread derailment. You put this
in a debate forum....so be prepared for challenges.
The challenges don't bother me. I'm trying to explain to you why you're conflating two separate issues. It would be like conflating last summer's George Floyd riots in the US with a (hypothetical) war between the US and the Zimbabwe. Correlation? Dark-skinned people of African origin. Relevance? Next to nothing. One's about violence between citizens of the US within the boundaries of the US and one's about a war between the US and a foreign enemy.
I don't buy your analogy.
Zimbabwe is on the other side of the
world, & not involved in US troubles.
Jewish reporters report a side of the story that favors Jews. Palestinians and Muslims note the side of the story that favors their side.
And the carnage and suffering on both sides goes on endlessly because the one thing that is most critical is to take anger and fear and make the other side suffer horribly as if inflicting suffering will solve anything.
And the carnage and suffering on both sides goes on endlessly because the one thing that is most critical is to take anger and fear and make the other side suffer horribly as if inflicting suffering will solve anything.
Jewish citizens of Israel (settlers) are beating up on Arab citizens of Israel. If that's not valid for this thread, have fun with your propaganda thread - it's not about even handed truth but about pushing a false narrative.
That's a deflection. I said it was a hypothetical. You're conflating Israel's foreign relations with Israel's internal relations.
Jews in Lod are "settlers"? Jews in Jaffa are "settlers"? Jews in Acre are "settlers"? Jews in Haifa are "settlers"?
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Orbit
I'm a planet
More than 200 Palestinians, including 61 children, have been killed in heavy air strikes so far, and more than 1,400 people are wounded, Gaza’s Health Ministry said.
At least 12 people in Israel have been killed in rocket attacks launched from Gaza.
Doesn't back up your stats.
Source: Israel-Palestine: EU foreign ministers to call for ceasefire
At least 12 people in Israel have been killed in rocket attacks launched from Gaza.
Doesn't back up your stats.
Source: Israel-Palestine: EU foreign ministers to call for ceasefire