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Vaccines aren't mentioned in the Bible!
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stvdv
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Today I actually did ask Jesus for an update of the Bible [code red = urgent]
in this post: does it works for you?
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Bob the Unbeliever
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Yes, but Jesus always took the high moral ground.
He may have driven a Honda, but he absolutely refused to speak of his own Accord...
Bob the Unbeliever
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stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
God and Jesus had quite a rough and bumpy ride here on the forum sofar this afternoon+after
Maybe nice to give Jesus + God a break, not that I mind bumpy roads, just for the fun of the ride
first of all, Thanks for the "Funny" on my remark "I asked Jesus today for an update of the Bible".
But, Not only Funny, I really did ask it on the forum [60+ versions + errors in year 2000
]right here: does it works for you?
Furthermore: I like your 4 lines: And created 2 extra additions [maybe]:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. check
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. check
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? *1
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? check
~ Epicurius (341-270 BC)
*1: able + willing, BUT NOT doing because of: a) Free Will
*1: able + willing, BUT NOT doing because of: b) Non-judgemental, so why change if you don't see (it as) evil?
Like Atheist sometimes say "I don't believe in God, can't be proven"
I can say "I don't believe in this view that God sees sin, evil and is judgemental etc".
It's all in the eye of the beholder and can't be proven [God never got angry with me
, never told me I am a sinner; would be nice if "He" did. At least then I had proof of God]For me, I'm done with the view of sin, evil and other Biblical negativity.This I see as a very handy businesplan of the church that has worked for 2000 years but I stop repeating this. Enough is enough.
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QuestioningMind
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Okay, so where in the bible does it mention computers? Obviously it MUST or else she wouldn't be posting her opinions online.
QuestioningMind
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Yeah, but some of the crap kills you or injures you permanently. If you're worried about disease spread the best damn thing you can do is stop hanging with random people.
Just to share a real story, my father-in-law has liver issues contracted from taking certain vaccines. He basically has all the effects of having hepatitis c, but never had the infection in his life. Anyway, I'm not saying don't take them, I'm saying like anything you put in your body extensively research it. Most of them have side-effects, complications, and whatnot. You may decide that it might be easier to alter your lifestyle than take some of them. You need that information before you make a decision, and that's all I'd ever suggest. Most of the time it's worth the risk as the illness may be worse than any possible unintentional effect.
How was it determined that your uncle's liver issues were caused by these certain vaccines?
stvdv
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@Mindmaster: How was it determined that your uncle's liver issues were caused by these certain vaccines?
I am also curious. Was 20 times in India. Never took injections first and got 3 times Hepatitis. So finally I took vaccine and never got sick again. I like vaccine.
I am also curious. Was 20 times in India. Never took injections first and got 3 times Hepatitis. So finally I took vaccine and never got sick again. I like vaccine.
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How do you get hepatitis 3x?
There are vaccines for A,B, and some medications for C. I don't know about the rest. Anyway, the doctors can tell you based on birth dates and where you received them, etc. They have to review your records. Anyway, the symptoms mimic Hep C and they thought he might have had it but realized he didn't have any blood transfusions in his life or do any inter-venous drugs. Also, he was a donor and blood donations are screened for these things and would have come up.
dianaiad
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The peoples of the bible didn't live in caves and wear animal skins, just so you know.
As well, the woman might consider that vaccinations ARE mentioned in the Bible; the OT, as it happens.
Consider that even today, if someone is exposed to a disease, giving them a vaccination can lessen the severity of that disease, and sometimes even prevent it. That's one of the reasons that someone bitten by a rabid dog gets a course of the rabies vaccine, and why we are all encouraged to get the flu vaccine even in the middle of flu season when pretty much everybody has been exposed to it: if it's too late to prevent the flu, it MIGHT lessen the time and symptoms.
If, that is, 'they,' figured out which flu virus to vaccinate against. Mostly they do.
So with that in mind, remember the story of Moses leading the Israelites around the desert for years, and on one occasion they were bedeviled by a whole bunch of snakes? People were dying all over the place from being bitten. So...God told Moses to make a snake of brass and put it on a pole. All someone who was bitten had to do was look at the snake on the pole, and s/he would be fine.
The problem, of course, was that some of those Israelites didn't believe Moses, and even when they were bitten, they wouldn't do something as simple as look...and so they died.
Now isn't that vaccination? Seems so to me; Nowdays...you get bitten by a rabid animal, you get the vaccination, you're fine. Back then, you get bitten, you gaze at the snake, you were fine. If you are against vaccinations today, and you get bitten, you are gonna die. Back then, if you didn't look at the snake, you died.
See? Vaccinations ARE in the Bible. (grin)
QuestioningMind
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How do you get hepatitis 3x?
There are vaccines for A,B, and some medications for C. I don't know about the rest. Anyway, the doctors can tell you based on birth dates and where you received them, etc. They have to review your records. Anyway, the symptoms mimic Hep C and they thought he might have had it but realized he didn't have any blood transfusions in his life or do any inter-venous drugs. Also, he was a donor and blood donations are screened for these things and would have come up.
That doesn't really sound as if anyone firmly established that a vaccine was responsible. It sounds more as if no one could determine how he contracted what he has and you and others jumped to the conclusion that it had to have been a vaccine.
Bob the Unbeliever
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God and Jesus had quite a rough and bumpy ride here on the forum sofar this afternoon+after
Maybe nice to give Jesus + God a break, not that I mind bumpy roads, just for the fun of the ride
first of all, Thanks for the "Funny" on my remark "I asked Jesus today for an update of the Bible".
But, Not only Funny, I really did ask it on the forum [60+ versions + errors in year 2000
right here: does it works for you?
Furthermore: I like your 4 lines: And created 2 extra additions [maybe]:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. check
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. check
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? *1
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? check
~ Epicurius (341-270 BC)
*1: able + willing, BUT NOT doing because of: a) Free Will
*1: able + willing, BUT NOT doing because of: b) Non-judgemental, so why change if you don't see (it as) evil?
Like Atheist sometimes say "I don't believe in God, can't be proven"
I can say "I don't believe in this view that God sees sin, evil and is judgemental etc".
It's all in the eye of the beholder and can't be proven [God never got angry with me
For me, I'm done with the view of sin, evil and other Biblical negativity.This I see as a very handy businesplan of the church that has worked for 2000 years but I stop repeating this. Enough is enough.
Free will has zip-all to do with a failure to prevent Evil.
Are you saying that the "god" in question is incapable of building a Universe without evil in it?
If so-- why such an inept an incapable deity?
So much for "all good" or even "all powerful"-- clearly it is not all good, because it included evil, and it is far from all powerful because it was unable to prevent evil.
Oh well.
As for point 2? That makes this god out to be ... dimwitted or stupid... an even bigger "oops"...
By others meaning multiple doctors? lol... His primary physician has him going to a specialist.
And, he didn't contract anything.
And... you shot the messenger....
The CDC has a list of problems from vaccines here:
Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects
Go argue with them, lol.
Also, realize older folks (baby boomers) were taking unsafe chemicals in many of their vaccines. Even if the modern vaccine is safe the older one might not be, etc... It's a talk to your doctor issue...
Especially of note in older vaccines:
Thimerosal in Vaccines Thimerosal | Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC
P.S. They say it is quickly eliminated from your system, but FFS I would not willingly ingest mercury or containing compound in any known quantity.
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stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
How do you get hepatitis 3x?
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@For MindMaster ONLY: I visited Sai Baba. Is a Poorna Avatar. Mentally I said:"If this is true then I surrender to you, and don't take vaccinations. You are my doctor". So I got Hepatitis on every trip, and HE cured me everytime. This happened 3 times. After 3 times I felt little embarassed. Sai Baba always says "Use Common Sense before Divine Sense". So then I took Hepatitis vaccination.
Doctors told me, you can only get Hep-A once. I got it 3 times. Meaning Sai Baba cured me totally, even took the stuff out that makes you don't get it again. Perfect cure. At least I got my proof. Was worth being sick 3 times. But taking vaccination is much more convenient.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
By others meaning multiple doctors? lol... His primary physician has him going to a specialist.
And, he didn't contract anything.
And... you shot the messenger....
The CDC has a list of problems from vaccines here:
Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects
Go argue with them, lol.
Also, realize older folks (baby boomers) were taking unsafe chemicals in many of their vaccines. Even if the modern vaccine is safe the older one might not be, etc... It's a talk to your doctor issue...
Especially of note in older vaccines:
Thimerosal in Vaccines Thimerosal | Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC
P.S. They say it is quickly eliminated from your system, but FFS I would not willingly ingest mercury or containing compound in any known quantity.
Pretty much a nothing burger if you read it. And you are exposed to trace amounts of "poisons" on a regular basis. The amount that you would get for example the amount of mercury in a typical mercury preserved vaccine is on the order of that of a 3 oz. can of tuna. One gets very few vaccines in one's life, but does eat quite a bit of tuna:
Thimerosal and Vaccines
Of course the major worry for many with vaccines is autism, and this video is an impressive expose on that problem considering the source:
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
How do you know that you were "cured" by this man? The body can and does naturally recover from Hep A most of the time within a few weeks. He may have merely made the symptoms more bearable until you recovered on your own:
"Most people who get hepatitis A feel sick for several weeks, but they usually recover completely and do not have lasting liver damage. In rare cases, hepatitis A can cause liver failure and death; this is more common in people older than 50 and in people with other liver diseases."
Hepatitis A Questions and Answers for the Public | Division of Viral Hepatitis | CDC
Axe Elf
Prophet
That was because He couldn't have squeezed into it if He wanted to, because according to Acts 2:1 the disciples were all in one Accord (presumably Jesus' own Accord--I mean, how many of them could there have been back then?).
74x12
Well-Known Member
People like this are high lighted to make all anti-vaccine people look stupid. We aren't against vaccines merely because we don't like vaccines. We're against the vaccines they're trying to give us with toxins and who knows what else in them.
Faithofchristian
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Well first of all, for what other reason would a person go see a physician if their sick or to get help for their illness
Seeing that people in the Bible went to see a physician, Those physicians had some sort of remedies for sickness and illnesses.
So I don't know where that woman is coming from to make such a statement.
Bible Mark 2:17--"When Jesus heard it, he said unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they are sick, I came not to call the righteous, but the sinners to Repentance"
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Faithofchristian
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That's right, The internet isn't mentioned in the Bible, but seeing how knowledge shall be increased in our time, And seeing how knowledge has increase and seeing how knowledge has lead to technology and the internet and among other things.
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