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Vacation To U.S. To Give Birth

David T

David T

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Russian vice president trump can just sign an executive order negating the 14th amendment get president Putin to approve its easy.

President Putin wanted out of the nuclear arms treaty vise president Trump signed an executive order so president Putin would look good in disengaging from the treaty. All hail president Putin.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
esmith said:
Maybe we need to look at changing the 14th Amendment.
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As a Nation of Immigrants, with an astoundingly ugly record of genocide and slavery, I am fine with that Constitutional Law.

It's the 2nd Amendment that needs to be reinterpreted, as I am confident that the Founding Fathers didn't intend to support the rights of the mentally ill to possess high powered automatic firearms.
Tom
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
columbus said:
As a Nation of Immigrants, with an astoundingly ugly record of genocide and slavery, I am fine with that Constitutional Law.

It's the 2nd Amendment that needs to be reinterpreted, as I am confident that the Founding Fathers didn't intend to support the rights of the mentally ill to possess high powered automatic firearms.
Tom
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Guess you forgot that if one is adjudicated mentally ill one can not purchase a firearm. But I forgive you for thinking this was about the 2nd Amendment vice the 14th
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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David T said:
vise president
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I didn't know that vises had their own president. ;)
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
esmith said:
Well it seems that the authorities have arrested You Win USA employees for running a scheme to bring pregnant women to the U.S. so babies could be born in the U.S. and become citizens. I'm sure that this isn't the only ones doing this, and this includes individuals.
Maybe we need to look at changing the 14th Amendment.

Travel agents charged with bringing pregnant Chinese women to give birth on U.S. soil
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If they've been charged, then it's already illegal, and the law is being enforced, because they've gotten caught. So why do you want more laws? What purpose would that serve?
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
PureX said:
If they've been charged, then it's already illegal, and the law is being enforced, because they've gotten caught. So why do you want more laws? What purpose would that serve?
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Not a law, just a change to the 14th Amendment, that would require the mother or father to be a citizen of the U.S. before a baby is considered a "natural born" citizen. This would not preclude applying for becoming a naturalized citizen.
You know like most of the rest of the world. Say like France's requirements.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
esmith said:
Not a law, just a change to the 14th Amendment, that would require the mother or father to be a citizen of the U.S. before a baby is considered a "natural born" citizen. This would not preclude applying for becoming a naturalized citizen.
You know like most of the rest of the world. Say like France's requirements.
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Congress can't agree on what day it is. Do you really think there is any hope, ever, of them adding an amendment to the Constitution? And why is it so important that these babies not be allowed to be U.S. citizens?
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
PureX said:
Congress can't agree on what day it is. Do you really think there is any hope, ever, of them adding an amendment to the Constitution? And why is it so important that these babies not be allowed to be U.S. citizens?
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Why don't you ask that question to other countries about their citizenship laws?
Seems like there are those that say "the rest of the world does X" so why not be like the rest of the world?
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
PureX said:
Congress can't agree on what day it is. Do you really think there is any hope, ever, of them adding an amendment to the Constitution? And why is it so important that these babies not be allowed to be U.S. citizens?
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Do you really think there is any hope of changing the healthcare in the U.S. given your above statement.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Well it seems that the authorities have arrested You Win USA employees for running a scheme to bring pregnant women to the U.S. so babies could be born in the U.S. and become citizens. I'm sure that this isn't the only ones doing this, and this includes individuals.
Maybe we need to look at changing the 14th Amendment.

Travel agents charged with bringing pregnant Chinese women to give birth on U.S. soil
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We need labor to replace us old people, and some of those children could save this country someday. IOW, why be so paranoid?
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
esmith said:
So, the problem isn't the lack of laws but the enforcement of the laws is what you are saying then isn't it.
Therefore we do not need any more laws about firearms do we.
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We need some new laws (such as requiring safety training across the board for everyone and all who want to buy a gun), we need to be more strict in some areas (being intoxicated and handling a firearm should be no different than handling a motor vehicle while intoxicated), and we have to cause social changes that will cause pressures to enforce what we have. We'll never have that, though, if people keep harping on about how it is everyone's right to own a gun.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
columbus said:
As a Nation of Immigrants, with an astoundingly ugly record of genocide and slavery, I am fine with that Constitutional Law.

It's the 2nd Amendment that needs to be reinterpreted, as I am confident that the Founding Fathers didn't intend to support the rights of the mentally ill to possess high powered automatic firearms.
Tom
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What?!? You would deny me my bump stock AR-15?

On a serious note it is quite the compliment that the rather well to do from China see the U.S. as the most desirable country for their children's citizenship.
 
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