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Utah becomes first state in 2023 to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have no problem with this being having sex with someone under 18 is sex with a minor and is a crime. Under 18 is key here.

Utah becomes first state in 2023 to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors


"The state's Republican-dominated Legislature fast-tracked the bill – which prohibits transgender surgery for those under the age of 18 and bars hormone treatments for minors who have not yet been diagnosed with gender dysphoria – two days after its session opened Jan. 17. GOP Gov. Spencer Cox signed the legislation Saturday.

So far this year, at least 10 other states have introduced bills targeting such health care access for transgender and gender-nonconforming people: Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

In 2022, at least 15 states restricted access to gender-affirming care or considered laws that would do so, according to the Williams Institute. Some of the bills carried penalties for health care providers and even families."

Utah becomes first state in 2023 to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors
Good for them. Keep hands off the minors.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Exactly! Like for example, the condition known as Swyer Syndrome. Typically the person is born “externally female” but with external gonads that are typically removed at birth for medical reasons. That could be interpreted as sex reassignment surgery. Potentially
Politicians should be following the advice of medical professionals. Not interfering in medical matters, imo. That’s really none of their business
I think there's a difference between natural and artificial medical situations.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I think there's a difference between natural and artificial medical situations.
I agree. I think that medical and mental health professionals should be the ones to determine that in medical circumstances
Unless you’re okay with the government coming in between you and your doctor?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As I said its not up to medical Dr's that can perform the procedure. It should be many years of therapy with the right Dr's.

Oh and I could list the post. But search for it lol
Again with the strawman arguments. If you paid attention you would know that medical doctors alone do not make these decisions. You appear to be going off of the Republican's false narrative. Ask the people that experienced this directly about what is going on.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Im not rude either. But don't swing a pecker and have balls and try to tell me you are a female.
Try swinging a uterus and fallopian tubes and argue you’re male (since you’re born with XY chromosomes and therefore classified as such in a biological circumstance)

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

How about when you’re raised a woman and then find out you need help with female puberty because you had a Y chromosome no one knew about?
Androgen insensitivity syndrome: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia.
How about hermaphroditism?
Psudomites?
Sex is not considered a strict binary in biology. Why would gender be any different?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I'm not rude enough to make finding such things out a concern. I have to take people's word on it nearly almost 100% of the time anyways.

Try milking a bull that thinks its a cow.
Try getting eggs from a rooster that thinks its a hen.

You will end up within no milk and no eggs.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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That may, may happen in approximately 1 in 80,000 people
And red haired-ness is statistically less likely to happen than some intersex conditions. Technically speaking
(As is my understanding)
You going to treat red heads as freaks now?
How about left handed folks?
People born with deformities?
How about people born with mental or physical disabilities?
(Not saying they are the same. Just that there’s a lot of “rare conditions” that we take into account and act accordingly for in society.)
Such things are technically rare as well. Should we not treat such individuals with respect?
Why should the rarity matter even?
 
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