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US: Donald Trump launches 2024 comeback bid, makes his 'very big announcement'

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by stvdv, Nov 16, 2022.

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  1. 01: I "think" Donald Trump will be the next president

  2. 02: I "don't think" Donald Trump will be the next president

  3. 03: I "hope" Donald Trump will be the next president

  4. 04: I "don't hope" Donald Trump will be the next president

  5. 05: I will vote for Trump

  6. 06: I will not vote for Trump

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  1. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Which is to say religion, spirituality, and fantasies are symbolic and of the reality of metaphor. That's a good thing! It need not be justified logically and it means a person can better adapt the concept to their personal lives, making it more powerful than interpreting it as literal history.
     
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  2. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane My own religion

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    As long as some doesn't claim they are real as say gravity.
     
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  3. ben d

    ben d Dhyani

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    Your mind operates on a relative basis only, it is apparently yet unaware of non dual awareness. Non dual awareness exists when the mind is still and free from thought. When there is no thinker, there is no I present to know or not know anything. Unless you devote your life to understand what you really are, the relative dualistic awareness of reality is all you have to work with.
     
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    You do not understand, so is science symbolic of reality, only the transcendent non dual mind state is non symbolic. Perhaps it is easier to understand by explaining that there is relative reality and actual reality. So long as there is an observer of reality, it is relative. To apprehend the non dual, ie., actual reality, the observer must disappear.

    Religious practice is meant to go beyond the dualistic mind to the transcendent spiritual unity.
     
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  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane My own religion

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    Well, I don't want to learn that. Then what?
     
  6. ben d

    ben d Dhyani

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    Then you spend your life expressing that which you think your self to be, mainly that which has come about through the conditioning experiences of your life.
     
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  7. SkepticThinker

    SkepticThinker Veteran Member

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    Gobbledy gookedy doo.

    I asked for evidence about your Satan claims. And I get nothing but word salad and condescension.
    Alrighty then. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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  9. ben d

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    Fine ST, I wish you well in your life's journey.
     
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    SkepticThinker Veteran Member

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    You, as well.

    Perhaps in the future before you tell people they are being influenced by Satan, you might want to have some evidence to present as well.
     
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  11. ben d

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    You are all the evidence needed, your ego self appears closed to the light of the universal awareness.
     
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    SkepticThinker Veteran Member

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    I'm all the evidence that's needed to determine that Satan exists and influences people? Is that your serious answer?

    “World salad is a circular conversation to avoid the real topic.”
    ― Tracy A. Malone
     
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    Not taking it seriously is what to be expected of atheists, that is the Satanic influence.

    Satan is the adversary of God, it is Satanic influence that causes souls to deny God's existence.

    Who Is Satan? - Biblical Archaeology
     
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  14. SkepticThinker

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    This conversation has gone absolutely no where because you can't demonstrate any of this and all you have to offer is word salad and empty assertions.

    The great juju at the bottom of the ocean is the adversary of people who believe in god. You don't have a soul because he sucked it out and ate it for breakfast. He's coming for your brain next. Good luck!
     
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    This conversation has brought forth the evidence that you are an adversary of God by denying His existence and constantly attempting to belittle those who devote themselves to a religious life.

    Btw, there are now many Christians who are expecting the world is in or near the time of fulfillment of end times prophecy, fireworks ahead! :)
     
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    You've done all the belittling here, pal. You're telling me I'm an "adversary of God" and that Satan is influencing me.
    That's after I asked for evidence of these claims.
    You haven't presented any. Just more claims.
    You should have just said you don't have any evidence and then we could've just moved on.

    Yeah, yeah, people have been saying that for centuries. Keep dreamin'.
     
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    It's not my saying that is evidence, it is your anti-God proactive attitude that is the evidence. Your consistent asking for evidence, and btw as if any observant soul was not already aware of you being an adversary of God based religion, is merely a lame attempt to misdirect.

    Now it is my understanding that an adversary of God would not admit to being an adversary of God, so naturally one would expect you would deny it, but in any event, is it really rational to believe that a Godless person would live by the Lord's commandments wrt honesty?
     
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