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Unthankful Trump is healed

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by questfortruth, Oct 6, 2020.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Unthankful Trump is healed from COVID-19 within 3 days in the hospital.
    A miracle, I tell you! But he has not said "Thank you, God" in front of the cameras.
    That is inconsistency because in other cases he openly and bravely represents Christianity:



    The most influential Christian is not the Trump, but the Jesus Christ, and He is not happy
    when His slaves are ashamed of Him:

    On the appointed day Herod, wearing his royal robes, sat on his throne and delivered a public address to the people. They shouted, “This is the voice of a god, not of a man.” Immediately, because Herod did not give praise to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.
    Acts 12:21-23 NIV

    Dear Trump, go to the library and study why we have thanksgiving in the US.

    Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.
    Revelation 3:19
     
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    He's not healed. He's just a bit better with a possible crisis looming.

    Pretends to represent Christianity because they're useful to him.
     
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    And even if he is healed (doubtful), he should be thanking
    his health care providers, the taxpayers, & his genetics.
     
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    fantome profane Keep safe, and keep your neighbours safe.
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    Like so many preachers and prophets throughout history.
     
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    Your bar for miracles is set disturbingly low.
     
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    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    He looks far from well on the TV.
    And he is certain to still be infectious.
    So what is he doing in Public
    and amongst his support staff?
    he needs putting out of his misery.
     
  7. questfortruth

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    Dear Trump,

    Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.
    Revelation 3:19
     
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    You could see him gasping for air while being photographed.

    As usual, it was done to try and show how "strong" he supposedly is, whereas he's actually inadvertently showing weakness of both body and mind.
     
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    I think for a person in his position that it isn't hard to just make it up for sympathy, votes, excuses, to distract from debates and debate issues and lots of other issues. I can imagine a politician faking an illness to get out of a lot of things and use it as an excuse, a trump card, to manipulate people, public opinion, moderate intensity of attacks, and lots of ploys and reasoning to come up with this now and play it.
     
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    Have you (anyone viewing this) ever sort of exaggerated or basically lied to anyone about feeling a bit sick or having a problem in order to get out of an obligation, expectation, appointment, or duty (like a work day or a school day)? Just curious. I wonder if I have. I kind of don't think I have, but I've seen people do it I think, or to be sort of barely feeling bad or just late and tell the employer that they can't make it because of some reason, either the minimal reason that they thought of it for in the first place, or a made up one entirely.
     
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    Doesn't Trump have a track record for blatantly lying to people right in their faces, and when confronted about it, continues to lie and make excuses and lie more? I think people who believed this were just excited at the prospect of someone they hate getting hurt, but how would they feel if they were certain that he didn't really get hurt, but is just doing what he has demonstrably done (possibly his whole life) throughout his administration, which is to (like many politicians and business-people) lie and make up things that are meant to manipulate and deceive people or trick them?
     
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    He's still infectious regardless how well he claims to feel, and him pulling his mask off is just a big "**** you" to those he comes into contact with.

    If god were to intervene at all, it would've been with a lightening strike, not healing.
     
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  13. halbhh

    halbhh The wonder and awe of "all things".

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    To actually represent Christianity a person would need to say the same things that Christ our Savior says to us, such as --

    As Christ said:
    Matthew 5:18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

    God's Law --
    Leviticus 19:34 You must treat the foreigner living among you as native-born and love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    So, also now! --
    Matthew 7:12 In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets.

    Therefore all the poor refugees on our border are to be treated with kindness -- we should love them like ourselves -- and not shut them out as they are right now, by Trump's actions, this year, and continuing.

    Why is it ok to love the neighbor, to welcome the stranger, to be kind to the poor, even if it seems to cost? Why is it required, even if we didn't want it to begin with? ---> Because God is real, and the afterlife is real. Riches here in this life are dust. Riches in the Life to come are infinite value.
     
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    I think God likes plagues and disasters though, and so therefor likes Trump. Trump is God's curse on the United States of America, along with Covid-19 and race-riots, all coming from your Lord Mars, Apollo.

    If a competent leader was put in place, less people might have died, so in order to cause even more harm, everything seems well places and orchestrated to make people terrified and suffering. 4 more years? Why not? Look how unrepentant these humans are, these, Americans.

    So what is next? Maybe some half-assed vaccination program with nasty side effects or after effects? Maybe a new strain and more chaos? More race-wars leading to an almost civil-war state? Things getting so bad that even competent leadership can't fix it? The U.S. Economy crashing, leading to more rioting, and ultimately widespread crime?

    These things existed in the past as well, and the same sorts of players have re-emerged throughout the course of history according to accounts.

    The devout would escape (like Lot and his family escaped) or otherwise pray for their survival or at the very least for forgiveness, for whatever wrongs they have done, like while being (somewhat) prosperous, going around the world terrorizing and killing people and funding and supporting such (through taxes and other forms of support and encouragement)?

    The land is overtaken by corrupt politicians due to the way the corrupt gravitate to positions of people and how helpless people are to get rid of them or fix things, and because they (like me) are complacent, lazy, and afraid about being troubled or risking things.

    Trump will eventually go, but the way the world works seems to continue regardless, and it ain't pretty (so far).

    Now people are thinking fondly about Bush Jr. who created the Patriot Act, made life a living hell in many ways and the nation more worse than people thought was possible. They ironically are looking back and thinking "wow, he was even better than this Trump guy". He wasn't though, and America has a long history of monsters for Presidents who have harmfully influenced the entire world for generations, causing so many problems in far flung places as well as at home.

    Its got to be a (worthless seeming) lifelong struggle and fight to make a nation that doesn't quickly degenerate into tyranny or a chaotic free-for all or free-fall.
     
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    It is highly unlikely that Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George Bush Jr., Bill Clinton, George Bush Sr. were Christians at all, regardless of any claims they may have made or ceremonies they may have participated in. It seems apparent that they were all Atheistic or otherwise Agnostic or "Spiritual" at the most (saying they casually believe in God, possibly even less than Napoleon Bonaparte or Adolf Hitler), and are really just materialistic and worldly people who scarcely ever think of God or spiritual things (except for superstitious things maybe, energies, luck, bad intentions, psychic intuitions, spiritual entities).

    The closest a Politician type might get to religion, especially when they reach levels like the Presidency in the last few decades, may be something akin to East Asian people in a restaurant with a lucky money cat statue or some other idol or trinket that incense is lit for or food is left for (and that would really be something, but they might be like "eh, might as well give it a try, what could the harm be?").

    I didn't go as far as including Ronald and Jimmy and the many people before them, as religion was more trendy and fashionable and believed (seemingly) as we go further back, though still the people who pursue high powered positions might not really be incredibly sincere always, it can be harder to know for certain, whereas now we can be pretty certain these last 5 Presidents were highly likely to be cutthroat non-believers who have been involved in the slaying of numerous people around the world and do not really fear God or believe in the "Thou Shalt Not Kill" or whatever type stuff, but are basically mass-murderers who didn't even need a religious reasoning themselves for actually participating in or somehow having their hands bloodied by the callous killings they oversaw and authorized one way or another.
     
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    Yes. Doing wrongs like using powerful explosive ordinance (bombing) a 'militant' village or large compound (with dependents, etc.) and so on for the 'national interest' or 'national security' are...wrongs, because the action is wrong in and of itself to begin with, no matter justifications.

    Looking carefully at life choices and actions, it seems only for Jimmy Carter have I seen what I can recognize as clearly Christian action in a more full way, such as being humble (even meek often!) and really doing the golden rule most all the time and other acts and words and deeds (though I don't know all the actions of all the presidents after leaving office enough to say more about what each did after office past Carter, and am not trying to assert Obama is one way or the other today (after office)).
     
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    I think a lot of Christians agree with you. What about Reagan and Bush? They say "Thank God," but do they mean it?
     
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    Should he have said thank you god in front of the cameras? I thought thanking god was a personal thing, no?

    And that video is messed up.
     
  19. KenS

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    Well... I'm excited to know that we have someone who can sit on the judgment seat with Jesus. He might think it is kinda crowded. :rolleyes:
     
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    Agreed!! It is a matter of the heart--that God is best at reading.
     
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