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Universal senses and individual experiences

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Unveiled Artist, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    Humans have (generalizing on purpose) the same senses: we perceive things with body-five senses, spirit-gut instinct-gut feeling, mind-psych, and (how do I say. I don't know) six sense-intuition not aligned with the reality we are familiar with.

    So, when we experience something whether situational, emotional, clinical, so have you regardless of our interpretation of it, at its most basic raw form, we all have the same experiences.

    Take pain. If one person steps on a nail and another person hit by someone else, regardless the situation, interpretation, etc the body registers pain the same way.

    So, I would assume spiritual experiences are just the same we just interpret it differently, culturally, linguistically, and critically, but the feeling (actual feeling-psych and physical and heart) are just the same. aka. We are ALL human.

    1. So, if someone says "you just got to experience it to 'get it'" what does that even mean in light that we are all humans and we all experience "pain" regardless how we interpret it and how we feel our experiences are "ours" and that no one else can share?

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    For a quick example, I'm just meeting this woman who says she doesn't want a relationship cause of healing from her ex. I just met her. She told me couple days ago since I haven't experienced "hurt from a break up" I won't 'get it'. Which is an insult because we experience pain in many different ways but we are all human.

    So, I extended this to a spiritual/religious concept rather than a relationship one. When I hear someone says they have a spiritual experience and the other says explain it, and they receive the answer "you have to be there to experience it"

    2. What about spirituality that is so personal that lack of ability to express the experience = it's too complex in and of itself to be understood unless experienced?

    Take it as ye will.

    This just kind of irritated me when reading these threads and thinking about the lady I'm talking to.
     
  2. Mestemia

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    Have you ever had an experience that you could not explain to yourself?
    That left you baffled?

    If you cannot explain for yourself an experience, how can you explain it to someone else?

    Of course, there is also the possibility that for some reason they simply do not want to talk about it.

    Another possibility is the "no one else has had this experience so no one else can understand it".
    My daughter suffered from this one when her first boyfriend dumped her.
    She though she was the only one in the world who felt that kind of pain.
     
  3. Unveiled Artist

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    I've had experience with brain surgery. Not all people have brain surgery, so of course they wouldn't have the same interpretation and have the same reaction to it as I and someone else.

    However, they have their five senses and probably to an extent a "six" one based on their gut feelings and intuition. This is where severe empathy comes from when you can "feel" the other person's pain even though the other has not experienced (and can explain) it.

    So, given that, I wouldn't say "but you would not know" because you haven't experienced it. I'd say more each of us have experiences that may or may not be extreme for me but it is for you. Since we are both human, we are more than likely affected (say have pain) the same way. So, even though I can't explain what it's like having brain surgery and the other can't explain what it's like to be beat up by one's spouse, we can agree that there are different types of pain but in the end since we are all human, we have a connection with each other-so we know.

    We can't describe what we know/how we feel, but that's one reason people get into relationships etc is because of that connection.

    Some more than others, though. It exhausts me out but others are indifferent to it. Either or, none is right or wrong.

    I read book and the author said, "I don't own the words (don't copyright) the words I say. They are from the creator so open to all."

    So, in that context, that's what I'm getting at.
     
  4. Unveiled Artist

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    That, and what I can't explain with my A experience and what you can't explain in your Y experience, since we come about the same pain (we're both human) we can bounce each other's thoughts and find connections. Maybe the words and thoughts we don't know how to express to others is triggered by someone who does not need to share the same experience in order to know.
     
  5. rational experiences

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    Maybe the history of science victimization, not many victims are still living after being attacked is the reasoning of the explanation, of not being a science victim, but in rationality, should be the science victim, male self.

    Inventor of the state science, owner of it, controller of it, and a male who thought about vision, a non physical state to gain machine design.

    Builds a physical machine, activates it, then gets attacked by it also....and the encodings that once existed only as vision, then get given a physical interactive idealism that was not previously science expressed.

    As the individual male or males or caused it....why it is not fair that victims are made of the selves who choose to cause it....when it should be related directly if life were fair and law correct, cause and effect......of self.

    Which is the first artificial law that an evil Satanic science occult history should think about, if it was relative you instantly would have been destroyed.

    So you and your machine relationship which AI says is a male who thinks he is in a sexual partnership with his machines, and acts it out in his life and mind, has to get some sort of self experience to learn.

    For irrationality is an aspect of the choice of the designer and his machine, who does not know reaction and the cause until he applies it.

    Why humanity have a difficult time to explain victimization in the experience, for he is the God self machine controller who uses machines with his purpose....to attack our life and agree that he is safe, as the inventor.

    So the whole time his owned natural psyche told him that the would not gain direct attack upon his own person.....why the science self always agrees that he is personally safe, when he shares the same living conditions as everyone else does.

    And those who enjoy the victimization and sense of powerful egotism committing crimes and being paid for those crimes....are the worst sort of inhumanity that we are forced to live with.

    Why I asked God and our Holy Father records, for what reason did he allow this circumstance....and the truth is, he supports it.
     
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