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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Power Stone, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. Power Stone

    Power Stone Unknown Member

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    I recently learned there's a lot of negativity from people who accept evolution towards those who reject it. I've always known that some religious people persecute others that don't believe what they believe, but in light of what I recently learned the picture is becoming clearer to me now. I'm also aware that this topic isn't the only source of tension between people's. I think it's very important to respect what others believe as long as they're not pushing it down peoples throats and not harming anyone. As far as raising children goes I think it's OK to introduce children to a religion and keep it light and simple. They'll grow up and make up their own minds. One could say why not introduce all religions of the world to them but I think one is good enough. I mean realistically children can only handle so much with school, activities, playtime and downtime etc.
     
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  2. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Introduce religion, all religions and atheism - sure.

    But don't teach falsehood/lies no matter what some believe. Teach scientific truth.
     
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  3. stvdv

    stvdv Well-Known Member

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    Your first 2 lines prove that it's not good to introduce 1 religion, unless it's the 1 religion that does not believe "My way is the Highway"
     
  4. Power Stone

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    I was raised Christian. I Rejected evolution later in life but my childhood and teens 20's and 30's never really gave it much thought. I neither rejected it nor accepted it. I pretty much didn't think about everything else I learned in school as well. Lol.
     
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    Oh yeah I believe in teaching evolution to kids
     
  6. stvdv

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    What Christian denomination you were raised in?
    Do you believe Jesus (or Bible/Christianity) is the only way to Truth OR do you give other Religions the benefit of the doubt (as all are beliefs anyway)?
     
  7. Power Stone

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    Catholic. Oh absolutely. I've always respected people from all walks of life and their beliefs. Personally myself I don't really put faith in the Bible. I have a living God.
     
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  8. stvdv

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    Thank you for sharing this. I like Catholic belief. I have seen more Catholics on RF who are "open" then other denominations. Makes sharing worthwhile.

    If someone already slammed the door in my face, then I don't even bother to speak with them:D (I mean, what use is it to speak to a door/wall anyway?)
     
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  9. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Asinine, socialist-leaning, puerile filth
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    And vice-versa. The accusation usually made is selectiveness - the religious choosing which bits of science to accept/reject according to whatever supports (or doesn't) some particular piece of religious text - the theory of evolution being the best supported explanation for how life on Earth has developed.
     
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    Are there still people who reject evolution? Hard to believe for me, although I once met someone who really believed the earth to be flat, he studied theology, and I told him I could prove with simple math formulas that the earth can't be flat, but he was not interested to hear this.

    So having seen this, probably there might be also someone who does not accept evolution.

    I mean, I learn everyday, thereby I evolve (sometimes not as fast as I would like though). So for sure there is evolving, unless you don't learn anything, but that seems very unlikely to me. There are even stories about humans who are raised by animals, and they behave like the animals they were raised by. And I have seen animals who are with families and those animals start behaving like humans (showing compassion and lots of empathy). The other way around I have also noticed sometimes. So, for me evolution seems naturally true. Tell me your company I tell you who you are, my Master always was keen on sharing with us. That alone indicates that evolution takes place. Even plants change according to the music you play.

    All matter on earth is Consciousness, according to the Wise (in India), hence has inherent possibilities to grow and evolve.
     
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    Why?
     
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    The problem is, people who believe in creation do want to have it taught in science classes. There is not one shread of scientific evidence for creation whilst there is a growing catalogue of evidence for evolution.
     
  13. ChristineM

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    Children can handle much more than you give them credit for.
     
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    I think it is very important to differentiate between respecting people and respecting what people believe.
     
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    Look, can I just say, if you felt that I was being harsh towards your views in your previous thread, I apologise. It’s not that I think negatively about your beliefs.
    In fact, I genuinely don’t think you’re wrong for having whatever beliefs you hold.
    You do you.

    I’m just used to “separating” certain subjects. One speaks on philosophical or theological subjects in those specific terms. In such discussions, appeals to emotion or perspective are normal. That’s just interpretation and that’s cool.

    With regards to science, there’s a greater expectation of backing up claims with evidence, rather than mere beliefs or opinions arguably. Because that’s just how the sciences have always been presented to me. You make a claim and then either back it up or face the consequences. It’s not about being negative, it’s about holding the discussion up to certain standards (for lack of a better term.)
     
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    Generally, no. That is generally not the case. Most people are not negative towards them.

    That goes both ways.
     
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    That is a problem, however I don't perceive a lot of negativity about it. I think its just a disagreement.
     
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    I think we should teach children about religion in school: what it's for, how they function, why people engage in them, and so on. I do not believe that schools should tech, promote, or otherwise have anything to do with the practice of religion. That is something that children should deal with apart from school, with their parents guidance.

    Religion is a very significant human phenomena that children need to learn about, in depth, as they become adults. But there is a difference between giving them the necessary information, and trying to control how they apply that information.
     
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    I don't have negativity towards individuals, but I do have negativity towards willful ignorance. I think that people denying reality is the single greatest threat facing humanity today. Opinions are not equal to facts. It's frightening that people can willfully ignore verifiable evidence that the climate is changing, that the Earth is a sphere and not flat, COVID-19 is not hoax, or that evolution is a confirmed process. It's sad that we no longer teach people critical thinking skills.
     
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    The Bible God is not a living God? o_O
    Why is your God living?
    Where does He live?
     
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